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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Bee » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:30 pm

Edward Elric vs. 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Goku
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:07 am

Goku would speed blitz Edward before he does anything. I don't remember Edward Elric having bullet timing feats.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Hitiro » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:54 pm

Nobody actually gave me an opinion on this fight so I thought I would bring it up again. It's a really great anime with a great storyline, it throws you straight into the action and doesn't care to teach you the fundamentals of the story as it places you in the role of the general public(Which don't know about contractors due to the Government covering it up). It also provides a unique twist on the main character, which makes sense at the end of the story from a scientific point of view(As you uncover his abilities and where they came from).
Hitiro wrote:Son Goku(Pre-DBZ)
Vs.
Hei (Without the meteor fragment)
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and
Son Goku(DBZ)
Vs.
Hei (With the meteor fragment)

Background on Hei(For those who don't know about him):
Hei is a character from the anime Darker than Black, the anime is focused around beings known as contractors. Contractors are, generally, humans who have lost most of their emotion and hide the rest with logic and reasoning. Each Contractor has their own unique ability which they can use how they please but they must pay a price for using that ability, the price can range from having to smoke a cigarette to offering blood but the price is also unique to each individual. With the disappearance of Hei's(Who was human at the time) sister(Who was a contractor), which happens before the anime started, Hei discovers he now has the abilities of his sister. Hei achieved his contractor abilities abnormally, as people are usually born with the ability and awaken to it when they are older, and due to this he has no price on the use of his ability. Hei is a highly trained assassin who specializes in hand to hand combat but preferably likes to use his dagger, which is attached to his belt by an extendible and conductive roll of wire, to stab his opponents and send electricity into them. For those who have/haven't watched it but want to know his background further(Spoilers ahead, highlight to see).As with what I said just now I'm sure you can guess his ability is to produce electricity however that isn't what the power really is, his real ability is to manipulate matter at a sub-atomic level which is how he can make electrical charges come from his body. Unfortunately he doesn't know the true extent of his power until later in the series and he can't access it without the use of a special meteor fragment.

With the meteor fragment he has been able to manipulate the whole planet in whatever fashion he wants, he has brought back people from the dead by reconstructing them. Altered events by changing everything at a sub-atomic level(I don't know if he actually manipulates time but I'm assuming he could since he can alter anything to produce that power. I assume at the time he changed events he just altered the whole planet without influencing time(By this I mean he changed the world to have different events up to the present day but they all happened in one go).
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby ringworm128 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:14 pm

Babidi vs Darth Sidious?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Insertclevername » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:12 pm

ringworm128 wrote:Babidi vs Darth Sidious?


I'd say Palpatine, considering he has proved himself in battle while Babidi hasn't. However, Babidi can brain wash him, unless Palpatine can repel it.

Okay so here is mine.


Lavos (Chrono Trigger) vs. late Saiyan Saga Gokuu and Piccolo.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Haji » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:03 am

Lavos in his first form was able to destroy the surface of the planet in 1999 A.D. and even in 2300 A.D. the earth is in a nuclear winter state.
This is a tough one. Maybe a Kaioken x 4 Kamehameha would destroy Lavos, or if Piccolo used Makenkosappo.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby sonikku956 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:07 pm

This is a dub contest.

The original Pokemon anime vs. Season 3 of the 1999 dub.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Piccolo Daimao » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:38 pm

sonikku956 wrote:This is a dub contest.

The original Pokemon anime vs. Season 3 of the 1999 dub.


The original Pokemon anime, if only because I have more nostalgia for it and the dub at least evoked the feeling of the games. The 1993 Season 3 dub is so far removed from Dragon Ball Z that it's barely DBZ anymore.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Insertclevername » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:41 pm

Hitiro wrote:
Hitiro wrote:Son Goku(Pre-DBZ)
Vs.
Hei (Without the meteor fragment)
Image
and
Son Goku(DBZ)
Vs.
Hei (With the meteor fragment)


Without having any knowledge on Hei besides the tid bits you mentioned, I'd say maybe Gokuu would have the upper hand in speed and strength but his "special" ability, the one you posted in white text, could influence Gokuu's Ki blasts and such. Also, Hei does have a dagger so he could use that to his advantage, unless it can't harm Gokuu ala 18 vs. Trunks' sword. So from an uneducated guess, thats about all I could say. :)
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Shoryuken » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:58 pm

Bussani wrote:
Haji wrote:What is a Logia type? People like Smoker that turns to smoke when hit, or Eneru that turns into lightning?

Anyone with the power to completely transform into an element, so yes, Smoker and Enel are examples. I'm not sure being fast enough to get a surprise attack in is a guaranteed victory, though, since there seems to be no reason that they can't stay in an intangible form indefinitely. Even when they look human and solid, sometimes they're not, and I believe the author said something about them being neither entirely human or entirely element in their default state. It should be technically possible to hurt them, however, since Crocodile was specifically said to have trained himself to become his element out of reflex.


Luffy only got a clean shot in at Crocodile because he took advantage of his hydrophobia.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Bussani » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:31 pm

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Haji wrote:What is a Logia type? People like Smoker that turns to smoke when hit, or Eneru that turns into lightning?

Anyone with the power to completely transform into an element, so yes, Smoker and Enel are examples. I'm not sure being fast enough to get a surprise attack in is a guaranteed victory, though, since there seems to be no reason that they can't stay in an intangible form indefinitely. Even when they look human and solid, sometimes they're not, and I believe the author said something about them being neither entirely human or entirely element in their default state. It should be technically possible to hurt them, however, since Crocodile was specifically said to have trained himself to become his element out of reflex.

Luffy only got a clean shot in at Crocodile because he took advantage of his hydrophobia.

I don't understand what you mean. My point was that Crocodile had to train himself to become his element out of reflex when attacked, meaning that all other Logia users probably had to as well. In other words, it isn't automatic, implying that it's theoretically possible to hurt a Logia if their reflexes aren't good enough. But that said, I don't think we've ever seen a Logia user get hurt simply because they didn't use their power quickly enough, which is why I only said it was a theoretical possibility.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Shoryuken » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:20 am

Bussani wrote:
Shoryuken wrote:Luffy only got a clean shot in at Crocodile because he took advantage of his hydrophobia.

I don't understand what you mean. My point was that Crocodile had to train himself to become his element out of reflex when attacked, meaning that all other Logia users probably had to as well. In other words, it isn't automatic, implying that it's theoretically possible to hurt a Logia if their reflexes aren't good enough. But that said, I don't think we've ever seen a Logia user get hurt simply because they didn't use their power quickly enough, which is why I only said it was a theoretical possibility.


Sorry, I misunderstood you, dude.

In the vane of One Piece vs Dragon Ball, here's a fight that I've thought about for some time:

1. Enel (Intangibility on) vs Goku (Saiyan-arc); Both are in-character
3. Enel (Intangibility on) vs Goku (Saiyan-arc); Both are bloodlusted
2. Enel (Intangibility off) vs Goku (Saiyan-arc); Both are in-character
4. Enel (Intangibility off) vs Goku (Saiyan-arc); Both are bloodlusted

Who wins in this fight of One Piece's self-deifying logia-wielder and Dragon Ball's protagonist?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Hellspawn28 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:09 pm

I wonder how far Ultraman Zero will make in DBZ? He was able to destroy a planet sized claw spaceship in a single strike from what I can remember in Ultraman Zero: The Revenge of Belial.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:13 pm

Son Goku (Saiyan arc) Vs Uzumaki Naruto (Shinobi War arc)

Naruto has Sage Mode, Kyuubi Chakra Mode & Bijuu Mode. Goku has Kaio-ken. Who wins?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Silver Sinspawn » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:01 am

Nightwolf from Mortal Kombat or Bora from that one Dragon Ball Movie that I am too intoxicated to remember
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby KakaR0T » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:36 pm

Silver Sinspawn wrote:Nightwolf from Mortal Kombat or Bora from that one Dragon Ball Movie that I am too intoxicated to remember

I'd have to go with Bora on this one. Bullets can't even stop him. Bora would just fling Nightwolf like nothing.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Fox666 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:08 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Son Goku (Saiyan arc) Vs Uzumaki Naruto (Shinobi War arc)

Naruto has Sage Mode, Kyuubi Chakra Mode & Bijuu Mode. Goku has Kaio-ken. Who wins?

In terms of strength, Goku is far beyond anything in Naruto universe. Something which can destroy a mountain in Naruto is god-like, while it is something mediocre to anyone at this point of the story for Dragon Ball.

Since the Rasen Shuriken destroys it's target in a celular level, perhaps it may be able to kill Goku. Of course Goku can also use the Kienzan, which may also be able to cut anything at the expense of a very small amount of energy unlike the Rasen Shuriken.

In the end, Naruto's ability to regenerate, and the Bijuus Boo-like "fluid" bodies may be the biggest issue for Goku.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Gonstead » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:11 am

The Six Paths of Pain (Nagato) vs Saiyan Arc characters

List of Paths.

Deva Path - The Deva Path (天道, Tendō) grants the user the ability to manipulate attractive and repulsive forces.
Asura Path - The Asura Path (修羅道, Shuradō) grants the user the ability to summon mechanised armor, augmenting their body with extra limbs and various robotic weaponry.
Human Path - The Human Path (人間道, Ningendō) grants the user the ability to remove the soul of any target they touched as well as read their mind.
Animal Path - The Animal Path (畜生道, Chikushōdō) grants the user the ability to summon various creatures. (As large, if not bigger than Oozaru)
Preta Path - The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal. (Basically works the same as Android's energy absorption.)
Naraka Path - The Naraka Path (地獄道, Jigokudō) grants the user two main abilities: interrogation and restoration, by using the King of Hell.

The King of Hell - http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/King_of_Hell


Nagato is in control of the paths using the Outer Path.

Outer Path - The Outer Path (外道, Gedō) is the seventh path, an ability granted to the wielder of the Rinnegan. With the Outer Path, the user is able to control life and death by reviving the dead, bind and restrict foes, as well as create and control the Six Paths of Pain.

Since Nagato also wields the Rinnegan, he can completely master all five basic nature transformations that form the basis of ninjutsu (Fire, Water, Air, Earth and Lightning).

As the Rinnegan is also connected to the six paths they all share the same vision as each other so having a blind side is almost impossible.

Who wins?
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby sonikku956 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:31 am

Wonder Woman vs Chi-Chi (did she train Goten at first? If so, she must've of gotten somewhat stronger) in the Boo Saga.
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Re: Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

Postby Piccolo Daimao » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:44 am

sonikku956 wrote:Wonder Woman vs Chi-Chi (did she train Goten at first? If so, she must've of gotten somewhat stronger) in the Boo Saga.


I don't know who'd win, since I honestly couldn't give two shits about Wonder Woman, but yes, Goten said that Chi-Chi sparred with him while Gohan was studying. But that doesn't necessarily mean she must've gotten somewhat stronger. In even a half-serious battle, Goten would probably have to hold back a great deal to avoid hospitalizing her in one shot.
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