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by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

And Boo Arc Vegito being stronger than the Blues as well as portrayed in Legends since Vegito was alluded to be superior to a Super Saiyan 4 in strength. The Legends material and Heroes do seem to be consistent with each other even if maybe by coincidence. Super Saiyan 4 was stated being equivalent...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

As far as Heroes is concerned, it seems like there's not really much of a difference between the Xeno characters and their GT counterparts in terms of power. Xeno Gogeta and GT Gogeta were even with each other in terms of power in the manga and I'm guessing it was Fin's abilities that gave him the u...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Thu May 09, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 13837
Views: 1196111

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

If GT Gogeta can beat Dark Gogeta I guess Fin added pretty much nothing to his power. Gogeta was far stronger than Fin and only got absorbed due to being caught off guard or something by his abilities I guess.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed May 08, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Vegeta wasn't predicting the Time skip and got hit in critical areas. Goku was predicting the Time skip therefore he did not get hit in critical areas before Hit improved.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri May 03, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In context, Goku's powering up comment refers to the Time-skip since multiple characters stated that Hit's actual strength didn't increase. Hit landed a critical hit on Goku after he improved his Time-skip.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663210

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Base Goku was stronger than Rildo whom was stated to be superior to Boo.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 13837
Views: 1196111

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

So it seems that GT Gogeta breaks out of Fin's absorption. Could be a case of Gohan not being strong enough to beat Dark Gogeta, but simply stalling until Gogeta frees himself.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Trunks straight up delivered a fatal blow on Zamasu during their fight. Zamasu did nothing of the sort to anyone, not the Blue tiers and not to Trunks. He's weaker than Trunks in his normal Super Saiyan forms. Zamasu is weaker than Trunks just like in the manga. Don't really know how anyone could sa...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Literally nothing implies that Future and Present Zamasu are any different. Goku's statement isn't an indicator. He didn't know what was different about Future Zamasu. If that difference was power then it would've been stated. It's clearly just hinting at his immortality which was revealed later on....
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29604
Views: 1844813

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Moro doesn't realize that Boo is a separate entity from the Grand Kaioshin. Boo>Grand Kaioshin in terms of strength. That's all that means.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Boo's energy can't be taken by Moro's magic. That's why Moro's fire could hurt Vegeta but not Boo. Moro explained himself that he doesn't only take the planets energy for his magic, but from the people on the planet as well. That's why Vegeta was tired right after his fight with Moro. He was taking ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 13837
Views: 1196111

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

As far as the Goku Xeno God ki thing, he says this: https://imgur.com/5vW4EoZ "Ahh, the me from the time who borrowed everyone's power and the me now who gained power by training himself..." I don't really think that would even refer to himself. He's referring to himself from a different timeline wh...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 13837
Views: 1196111

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

I don't really see much going against the notion of Goku and Vegeta Xeno just being the future versions of their GT counterparts. There's no reason for anything so complicated. The "other dimension" they come from is simply the GT universe but further in the future of that timeline. And the Xeno aff...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "SDBH: World Mission" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 602
Views: 52103

Re: "SDBH: World Mission" Official Discussion Thread

Surprised this game doesn't have God of Destruction Toppo or Limit Breaker Jiren. Don't think it has Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku either. It's missing a lot of fighters from the Tournament of Power. There's a good list of characters to keep the game enjoyable but I feel as if implementing characte...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

1. Jiren DID defend himself against the Final Flash. Did you even watch the episode? He shockingly blocked it with both hands, he didn't fell the need to do that with the Spirit Bomb. 2. "Nothing implies that 17 got stronger in the TOP" He was tanking hits from a full powered Jiren that were meant ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

1. "Skill and strategy not mattering is something you made up" When has a major opponent in DB ever been taken down by a much weaker character with just skill and strategy? It never really happens. The Base Goku vs SSJ2 Cauifla argument fails, because Caulifla quickly adapted to Goku's skill level,...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Now you are just repeating yourselves over and over smh. 1. "Strategy" in DB means nothing if your are massively weaker than your opponent. That bad teamwork Goku & Vegeta used on Jiren wouldn't have worked at all if Goku & Vegeta weren't any stronger than the 1st Omen in that instance. That's have...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Most of those instances we're explained by the cast them "breaking their limits" and raising their power. So yes, you are still wrong. 1. The Final Flash clearly had more of an effect on Jiren than the Spirit Bomb. If the SB was stronger Jiren wouldn't have been able to deflect it so easily with ju...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You're not presenting an argument. Every instance of Goku and Vegeta "doing good" against Jiren is explained by the story. But instead of using the given reason, you instead claim that it's because of some massive power increase that isn't acknowledged in the story. Most of those instances we're ex...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29633
Views: 1313516

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Now you are just repeating the same debunked arguments over again. 1. Jiren was shown powering up in 122, then again early in 123 before Goku & Vegeta teamed up on him (debunked the bad teamwork argument), then again into his full power in 126 right after Vegeta eliminates Toppo: https://youtu.be/g...