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by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The only assumption we would have to make here is that TOP UI was of the last resort UI type, but was too short lived and inefficient to show the full scope of UI's abilities due to Goku's lack of training. I’m not convinced by it. Nothing points to that version being stronger than the ones that ap...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

After all of this time, it still seems that the fandom hasn't squared the circle of how Jiren and TOP UI fit into the power hierarchy of the story. Black Frieza is stated to be "close" to a God of Destruction, placing him below Belmod whom is inferior to Jiren. This understandably creates ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's not confirmed or denied that Tarble was only talking about their unfused form, while all the translations I've seen made very clear that Toyotaro was talking about their unfused form in the interview. Chouzenshuu 4 which is an updated Daizenshuu clarifies that the "equal to Frieza" s...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Abo and Cado are first form Frieza level. Aka is stated to surpass SSJ Gotenks according to Chozenshuu 4, so Aka=Final Form Frieza cannot be true. The Frieza level statement is specifically about Abo and Cado, but they aren't final form level as stated by Toyotaro so the only form that makes narrat...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Abo and Cado are first form Frieza level. Aka is stated to surpass SSJ Gotenks according to Chozenshuu 4, so Aka=Final Form Frieza cannot be true. The Frieza level statement is specifically about Abo and Cado, but they aren't final form level as stated by Toyotaro so the only form that makes narrat...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It’s not a Toyotaro thing. In the special itself it’s said they used to be weaker than that. It’s quite a bit different. In the tv anime special, Vegeta said they used to rival Ginyu Force, but Tarble let him know they had become as powerful as Freeza (without giving further exposition on the detai...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Is there any implication or statement that Goten and Trunks stopped training between Z and Super? It seemed to be implied in Yo Son and Friends since in base they fight on par with Abo and Cado who are around 530,000, but it seems wishy-washy since it isn't explicitly stated. Is there anything more...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Is there any implication or statement that Goten and Trunks stopped training between Z and Super? It seemed to be implied in Yo Son and Friends since in base they fight on par with Abo and Cado who are around 530,000, but it seems wishy-washy since it isn't explicitly stated. Is there anything more ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:08 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 2336
Views: 420329

Re: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread

This game desperately needed some sort of multiplayer or offline option like World Tournament mode where you can freely choose which character you want to be and which characters you want to fight. Pure singleplayer games with zero content other than just the story don't work that well in today's ag...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405317

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Ultimate Gohan(Beerus Arc) vs "Ultimate" Gohan(Zen Exhibition Match) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB1B0sIXYAATK7P.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dr9fViMvsPY/maxresdefault.jpg Both version lack the bang, but are stated to be Ultimate, however that obviously isn't synonymous with having access to...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That doesn't take away from the fact that Goku needs transformations to match Gohan. SSJ2/3 Goku vs Future Trunks was also called practice. And fighting seriously in context just means fighting using large amounts of power until someone can't fight anymore. Gohan and Goku's serious fight was above ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Considering that Goku in base and SSJ fought evenly with Gohan on the farm prior to the latter regaining his Boo arc strength, it's obvious to see that the current narrative doesn't have "God level Base Goku". That never existed in the anime. Goku was always arbitrarily strong in base but...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Considering that Goku in base and SSJ fought evenly with Gohan on the farm prior to the latter regaining his Boo arc strength, it's obvious to see that the current narrative doesn't have "God level Base Goku". That never existed in the anime. Goku was always arbitrarily strong in base but ...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This chapter ties back into something I said earlier about Goku's UI level. UI Silver is stronger than UI Omen(Saiyan Instinct) as stated by Gas and Goku earlier. UI Omen was a fallback due to UI Silver being compromised by Goku's emotional state. UI Silver at full accuracy was never defeated in thi...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:07 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 16745
Views: 2850254

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Does anyone know where to find arcade translations for all the arcs from the Dark Demon Realm saga to the Ultra God mission?
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405317

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I acknowledge the strength gap, but that's in his muscular form only. He would likely need to switch forms during the match to fit the situation. And it was acknowledged that Maji Kayo being a tricky fighter is why he got the drop on Goku instead of it just being a case of raw power. Why wouldn't h...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405317

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I don't really think that the gap between these fighters are such that equal BPs are necessary. Maji Kayo and Boo shouldn't be too different in strength if Maji Kayo is in his normal and speed form, if anything Boo is probably stronger. If he's in his muscular form then the gap in strength increase...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:47 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405317

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Kid Boo vs Maji Kayo vs Magetta Maji Kayo is the from U3(Robot universe). Blue guy with the malleable body just like Buu. Interesting match between 3 weird fighters. They all have knowledge about each others abilities. I assume they’re at equal BPs here? I think Magetta is the first one out. Not su...
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405317

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Kid Boo vs Maji Kayo vs Magetta

Maji Kayo is the from U3(Robot universe). Blue guy with the malleable body just like Buu. Interesting match between 3 weird fighters. They all have knowledge about each others abilities.
by supersaiyangodgogeta
Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39831
Views: 3837511

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So what do you make of Jiren being stated to surpass all Gods, not just Belmod in the Universe survival arc promo for the manga? There was also official manga promo on the dragon ball website where the list of rivals that Goku surpassed with UI was shown and Beerus was on there along with Jiren, Za...