Search found 21 matches

by MYSTICisPOWER
Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Goku was the one that told him to fight when Gohan gave up, he told him not to hold back, then he told him when the best opening was. Gohan isn't at all doing what he decides, he's just listening to his father. There's no development in Gohan. I know I've said this before but your being totally unf...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:02 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

The way he felt wasn't crazy and made perfect sense. I think what ABED dislikes is the fact that Gohan did not even try to go down with a fight. He was literally willing to let every single person in that planet die without even trying to do something. Even if he would have charged a weak beam, som...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:45 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

I was really hoping to not get pulled back into this thread (also because another top thread is also focusing on Gohan currently) but I lack discipline. :twisted: Gohan's only solution to obstacles was his deux ex random rage boosts and hype train. Nothing from his own merit I'm sorry...what? Your g...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:24 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How exactly Gohan could have been better in the Boo arc
Replies: 143
Views: 14826

Re: How exactly Gohan could have been better in the Boo arc

If were talking about Gohan getting stronger again I think it be cool if it came from his earthling side. One of AT's early ideas was that the off-spring of Saiyan and Earthling had this mysterious and incredible power. That idea has since been forgotten and now we have the earthling part of the hal...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:46 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Proposal for Dragon Ball Z Live Action film
Replies: 14
Views: 1628

Re: Proposal for Dragon Ball Z Live Action film

You couldn't really do the Saiyan Saga in one film, you would have to cut Nappa, (not to mention Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu probably Yamcha and the Siabamen too). Raditz and Vegeta are more vital to the story then he is. Bragging about beating Pilaf and King Piccolo is a real "uncle in Canada"...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37470
Views: 3405189

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Cell Games - Videl (She's about 10 or 11) vs. Mr.Satan
by MYSTICisPOWER
Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: will piccolo train/watch-over gohans descendants ?
Replies: 6
Views: 1009

Re: will piccolo train/watch-over gohans descendants ?

I think it be nice if we saw him interact with Pan in Super, Piccolo has always been so great with Kids :lol:
by MYSTICisPOWER
Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How many dubs DBZ ROF is getting around the world?
Replies: 19
Views: 2796

Re: How many dubs DBZ ROF is getting around the world?

Is there a theatrical release date for the U.S. anywhere yet. Everywhere I look it just says Summer 2015?
by MYSTICisPOWER
Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:06 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

But Gohan took no steps, he's simply acting as Goku's proxy. I wouldn't be averse to Goku helping his son if Gohan didn't need him to do everything. Goku told him to fight back, he told him to fire his Kamehameha, he told him to not hold back, he told him when the best opening was. Gohan is so pass...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What do you hope for in Super's main antagonist?
Replies: 81
Views: 13737

Re: What do you hope for in Super's main antagonist?

I wrote that jokingly, but now I seriously love the idea. lol. Great Saiyaman needs a villain, and no one could fill that void better than Ginyu, who's still out there. Nothing funnier than seeing him switch bodies with Gohan and going on a rampage around Satan City as the Great Saiyaman. He seems ...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

The false drama I'm referring to is the idea that he either fears his own power or that he gets cold feet before fighting Cell because he doesn't like fighting like his father. Ever since fighting Vegeta, he hasn't shown fear or trepidation of fighting an evil person if it means protecting those he...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:54 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Well honestly, if you look at the Dragon Ball starting from the beginning I doubt that anyone would really consider Goku an absolute savior in the slightest. I'm very much a fan of Goku in the original Dragon Ball, he's incredibly entertaining, I have no qualms with DB Goku. My concern is really th...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:33 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

So compound the problem by giving up? I should've been clearer, I didn't mean to imply that it was the arm shattering that was the cause of his reluctance to fight. It might have been a contributing factor, but his sadness making him not want to fight is unappealing for the supposed hero of the sto...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

I say all of this because I can't remember a show where another character took over for the main character for the better. This probably doesn't help my argument because I understand they are vastly different, but if you want an example getting rid of Ned Stark was one of the best decisions GRRM ma...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Maybe I'm missing something in the argument then. Because the Gods in Greek Drama do not change, they don't go on a journey, like the protagonists of the plays do they are there to help or hurt the main hero. So if Goku was to fill this role in DBZ it doesn't support the idea of him remaining the pr...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Personally I don't think it would change his profitability, but I think the powers at be do. To introduce a negative aspect to your hero is one thing, which they did, but they didn't have it effect Goku's dramatic action, which is really what matters. When I say "modern audience" I'm tryin...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

The power-up did affect him. Battle of Gods makes a great effort in improving Goku's characterization, specifically by tackling aspect of Goku's character we've never had the displeasure of knowing about before: his pride. You're right, I did overlook this development in Goku's character in my last...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Goku's lack of internal conflict is kind of the point, I believe. He's the unmovable rock that the waves of Bulma, Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Piccolo, Gohan, and Vegeta splash against. He stays the same while they grow and evolve and you can see that pretty clearly as the series goes forward. Fro...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

Sure, he has no conflict and isn't interesting now , but that's because his story is finished . Any new material is just pointless milking that will either just reinforce what we already know or won't make an effort in trying to change the status quo because change isn't safe or profitable. If you'...
by MYSTICisPOWER
Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?
Replies: 68
Views: 7920

Re: Is DBZA Goku better than current DBZ Goku?

I'm no fan of Superman, but the only people who say that he has no conflict, is not complex, and has no drama are those who haven't actually read good Superman stories. Fair enough, that may be the case, perhaps Superman is the wrong comparison, a Dues-ex-machina complex then? I only hesitate becau...