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Idk if the daizenshuu is all that trustworthy but in the manga it pretty much tells you that goku was weaker then gohan in the buu saga goku was shitting himself at the thought of fighting super buu while gohan was kicking his ass with ease plus I don't know where it said goku being the strongest c...

Shisami is obviously SS tier after the training (which wasn't explained/expanded on what it consisted of) so I assume everyone went through it.

That would explain why Piccolo struggled and Gohan transformed to beat him.

We'll probably need to take this somewhere else, but you're just objectively wrong here. I agree goku flat out admits that him and vegeta were inferior to super buu without the absorptions. I agree that Vegeta flat out said that only Goku could fight Kid Buu. And admit that Vegeta also stated that ...

RandomGuy96 wrote: We'll probably need to take this somewhere else, but you're just objectively wrong here.

I agree, Goku is far and away stronger than Gohan, who is quite literally trash tier.

Hmm. Is he stronger than Beerus at any stage? No, he's always weaker, and Beerus is weaker than Whis. Unless by "in the world" you mean the folks living on Earth only, instead of the entire Universe. There's no other possibility for Goku to be called "the strongest in the world"...

It's normal for Goten to make that claim or assumption, as he loves his father just like Trunks would say Vegeta is actually the greatest. It takes going a little bit more in-depth into it to realize Goku is far from being the strongest warrior in the Universe, which is a good thing because it prev...

You understand why that implication is there, right? Because Goku is the strongest. They've only pointed it out 3 times already... It wouldn't be so strange for Goten considering his dad the strongest person in the world, since he saved him and his brother from and defeated the guy that absorbed th...

Context : Goku says how Chi-Chi forced him to get a job. Goten: “The strongest person in the world might actually by Mum…” Significance : The implication here is that Goten originally considered Goku to be the strongest in the world, and the Dragon Team subs even include “rather than you…” on to th...

RandomGuy96 wrote:Baby was one of the only good things about GT. He might be too good for the new stuff, though.

I this is the only time we'll partially agree.


But GT as a whole was terrible, the fights we bad, the action was bad everything about it was bad. I like to pretend it doesn't exist.

Minute: 10~11 Context: Vegeta thinks about Goku as he gets increasing frustrated with being stuck at the resort instead of training (and people in the crowd keep bumping into him) Vegeta: “After defeating Majin Boo, there should be no doubts that he’s Number One…But he stills keeps on training anyw...

It's not even a question of whether or not he excluded him. We know he did, because Gohan is not a saiyan, in the same way that a lion is not a liger. Gohan is a Saiyan. Unless it's specifically noted that he's excluding hybrids or you have some other quote saying otherwise, then he's apart of the ...

Vegeta says Goku's #1 without a doubt and is continuing to train. If it has nothing to do with Goku's power, there'd be no need to mention his training. The whole point is Goku's getting stronger while Vegeta isn't. But even if people want to assume it has nothing to do with power, Goku's still lab...

So, Herms are you ok with translating Buu saga pages?

So, Vegeta talking about Goku beating Pure Buu in Z wasn't about Power. Vegeta calling Goku #1 wasn't about power, and now we have this statement talking about Goku training to become stronger and stating yet again that he's #1 is supposedly not about power? Guys, there comes a time to admit that y...

Wow... how does anybody have the time to type all that. #2longdidn'tread! :lol: And I'm on my phone. Crazy right? I should probably charge my computer if I want to continue this. Anyhow, before people over analyze anything else about the final battle, I will point out that Gohan is actually nervous...

I'm not going to go back and requote everyone statement, but I read most of what was written. I'm going to assume, unless someone can point me to a direct statement that says otherwise, that Goku and Buu were dimensions ahead of everyone else, because that's exactly what the story dictates. I'm goi...

Yeah, I also found it strange that Boo would be burning through his absorptions slowly when it was never depicted like that before. It just goes to show that when Majin Boo's pod was taken, Evil Boo turned immediatly into another, powered up into South Kaioshin Boo, and then back. That Boo that Evi...

Yeah, and until something indicates he means that in a manner other than how it's represented throughout the series (IE in terms of power) we can safely assume he mean power. Of course, you'll want to over analyze and conspire on grounds it doesn't fit your version of the story. It requires no over...

I guess we will dance around a blatant statement (though it's context being completely clear) forever. Which reminds me, it's quite obvious Goku was talking about being Super Saiyjin 1s when he spoke about fighting Evil Buu. He doesn't say he's taking in SSJ3 into account, considering how vaugue the...

But then again, Vegeta keeps referring to Goku as #1 even after Gohan/Gotenks are brought back. We don't know what criteria Vegeta has established for Goku being #1. #1 in what? Fighting? Being the best full-blooded Saiyan? Being the best dad? Vegeta's #1 statement may only be referring to the him ...