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by Trachta10
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: AB Video to release original Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray
Replies: 514
Views: 70407

Re: AB Video to release OG Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray

Has there been any comparison yet with the TOEI DB flashback in Kai? That might be an interesting comparison (I know Kai was made to look for modern, but for the sake of detail lol) I have neither release so.. :lol: AB https://i.imgur.com/mrYHuMF.png Kai https://i.imgur.com/bLpV2xl.png AB https://i...
by Trachta10
Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:43 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: AB Video to release original Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray
Replies: 514
Views: 70407

Re: AB Video to release OG Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray

So basically Selecta Vision has the uncompressed digital master but with a terrible upscale and AB has the DVD with the compression artifacts but with and incredible good upscale? How can we have such bad luck? SV https://i.imgur.com/OmBdSAR.png AB https://i.imgur.com/YBitkYg.png SV https://i.imgur....
by Trachta10
Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:34 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: AB Video to release original Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray
Replies: 514
Views: 70407

Re: AB Video to release OG Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray

sadly, the lines don't look as good in dark areas

selecta
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AB
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by Trachta10
Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:36 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: AB Video to release original Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray
Replies: 514
Views: 70407

Re: AB Video to release OG Dragon Ball on Blu-Ray

This has more details than Dragon Box and Selecta Vision

Dragon Box
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Selecta Vision
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AB Blu-ray
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https://imgsli.com/MTM1ODI2/1/2
by Trachta10
Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation
Replies: 70
Views: 7847

Re: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation

@DHM211 Check the Kineko discord server, it was explained that the raw scan is 12-bit 4:4:4 and nearly 800GB just for 17 minutes. Data like that stores more dynamic range that is invisible to us on our 8-bit displays. You can shift colour and light information from the 12-bit ranges into 8-bit visi...
by Trachta10
Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation
Replies: 70
Views: 7847

Re: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation

@DHM211 Check the Kineko discord server, it was explained that the raw scan is 12-bit 4:4:4 and nearly 800GB just for 17 minutes. Data like that stores more dynamic range that is invisible to us on our 8-bit displays. You can shift colour and light information from the 12-bit ranges into 8-bit visi...
by Trachta10
Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation
Replies: 70
Views: 7847

Re: Fan group scanning/remastering of multi-generational film prints previously owned by FUNimation

It's worth nothing that Kineko didn't actually do any restoration yet, they just scanned and cropped it. You can pull out that dark detail from their print just fine: https://i.imgur.com/FUr95Hj.png Still get better dark detail with Toei https://i.imgur.com/o9o0MRb.png Yeah sadly, the Toei's film h...
by Trachta10
Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

a test with AI that does auto cc, I think quite satisfactory results https://i.imgur.com/gwuljLS.png https://i.imgur.com/ISYVmPp.png https://i.imgur.com/MD9DzSf.png https://i.imgur.com/IEkbiuv.png https://i.imgur.com/4OjMamj.png https://i.imgur.com/tguM39I.png https://i.imgur.com/aEvR24z.png https:/...
by Trachta10
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Cel reference
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Dragon Box
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AI filter with auto CC (not an upscale)
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by Trachta10
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

A test with the Trunks special, didn't try to go for a 100% cel look, just what seems good to me https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjYz https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY1 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY3 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY4 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY5 https://imgsli.com/MTA5Mjcw https://imgsli.com/MTA5Mjcx https:...
by Trachta10
Tue May 24, 2022 5:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

A test with the Trunks special, didn't try to go for a 100% cel look, just what seems good to me https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjYz https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY1 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY3 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY4 https://imgsli.com/MTA5MjY5 https://imgsli.com/MTA5Mjcw https://imgsli.com/MTA5Mjcx https:/...
by Trachta10
Thu May 12, 2022 6:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

The last movie also have colors really close to the color chart.

another proof that the cels colors are the intended look?
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by Trachta10
Mon May 09, 2022 1:37 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

The old laser disc sets, while probably a little off themselves, are probably the bets peek we have at what the original colors were: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269160110704558081/776188672529793094/unknown.png Though again, we'll find ourselves back at the issue of working with 480p fo...
by Trachta10
Sat May 07, 2022 6:45 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

I'm using color matching program now. There is an accuracy rating in color matching called average deltaE, the lower the number the better. An average deltaE of 3 means really good. And in this example, I got a 4.24 among the two character models used, which means the matching is pretty accurate. O...
by Trachta10
Sat May 07, 2022 6:41 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

An attempt to correct the colors in episode 30, of the new Dragon Box Selecta Vision upscale Didn't try to be accurate with the colors, is just by eye, more or less what seemed good to me. 2 minutes video https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yvI0Ae2NEdUVL2IrBwJ-xJU3VUjNWz6r/view?usp=sharing https://imgs...
by Trachta10
Sat May 07, 2022 3:07 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

nward50987 wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 9:21 pm Here is a CC using a new method. Let me know how it looks. https://imgsli.com/MTA2NzE0
Really really good :thumbup:
by Trachta10
Tue May 03, 2022 11:14 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

These images are all directly from that site, you can't seriously call these shots "homogenous". Some of them are just color-adjusted Dragon Box shots, complete with artifacts: https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/upload/save_image/episode/5967/story_img_1.jpg https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/upl...
by Trachta10
Tue May 03, 2022 11:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

You need to understand that there isn't such thing as a "final product", there isn't such thing as a post production where the producers applied incredible filters, and color effects and things like that to make the image look better. It was just a poorly scanned cel transferred to film. ...
by Trachta10
Tue May 03, 2022 10:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

I know is difficult to find cels that look identical to each other, because they were scanned in different ways, that is why I told you that the best source I've seen is this, because they look pretty homogeneous https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/ja/tv/dragon/episode/ https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/ja...
by Trachta10
Mon May 02, 2022 10:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular
Replies: 1874
Views: 387984

Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

You need to understand that there isn't such thing as a "final product", there isn't such thing as a post production where the producers applied increible filters, and color effects and things like that to make the image look better. Ahem... Here is a comparison between a sonic anime anim...