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Nice list, but seeing the gap from 15 to 10 is huuugee . Also Meerus being 4 levels above beerus seems too much.
Meerus is more suited in 11 or 12 for being a apprentice angel.

Depends, since Great Saiyaman is just Gohan with all his forms available. So, which Gohan is what I ask. If it's Gohan from the beginning of the Buu Saga, then Goten as a Golden Oozaru would crush him - his Super Saiyan state was already on par with Gohan's own weakened power, if not actually stron...

My thoughts? Cell was able to grasp the technique after experiencing it once when Goku teleported him to the afterlife. It might not be the easiest ability to learn but I don't think it's quite so intricately complex that most of the established fighters -- many of whom are prodigies themselves to ...

I find this techniques difficulty level extremely underrated . Instant transmission - a move that requires you to sense a target ~dematerialise your body ~rematerialise your body at target location What the heck is the difficulty level in trying to dematerialise your body and then somehow reforming ...

[quote=innocent_rage I did a sort of rough calculation given my own numbers. Now, this isn't fact but say the modifications work instantly then based on my numbers. Android Frieza would start off stronger than all of Z. I put A17 at 330,000,000 so divide that by 5 you get 66,000,000. 120X66,000,000...

mute_proxy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:59 am He was born without a tail, growing it would be random and nonsensical

Out of all the random and crazy things we have seen so far in the dragonball universe, a Saiyan child growing a tail is not that hard to imagine.

Be a good sport and play along .

Do you think we should have seen this during great saiyaman saga or even in dragonball super. Goten unkowningly grew his tail while training with gohan looks into the full moon and all hell breaks loose. Do you think gohan can handle this? Or would piccolo have to do a sneak attack on gotens tail wh...

Lapis and Lazuli went from 0-5 PL to be in the hundred millions as androids (above Freeza and SS). Gero made them many millions times stronger than before, so that kind of improvement on top of 120 M power level Freeza had would be a lot, definitely stronger than Golden Freeza. Where would you rank...

Well since base Gogeta is Blue tier and needed to go to Blue to beat someone on the level of Beerus then MUI is stronger than Blue by around the amount Blue is stronger than base. So a really fucking big difference. No, Gogeta needed to go Blue to embarrass and not be touch by someone Beerus level ...

I would say it's like this

Ssjb goku = 1
Ssjb kkx20 = 20
Jiren suppressed = 60~80
Jiren full power = 120
Goku UI = 100
Goku master UI = 150
Beerus full power = 90
Whis = 300 suppressed

Let's say Dr gero modified frieza the same way he did 17 and 18, how does andriod frieza compare to golden frieza ?

Consider 17 and 18 as regular humans... Then after modifications they easily surpassed ssj level .

Below is from reddit user RS-Romante ,he makes very good points on why UI should have been gohans. Gohan Vs Goku Learns that he doesn't want to rely on transformations to get stronger, and deliberately is trying to find an alternate path to get stronger. (So from the get go, his intentions are to no...

well potara fusion base kefla is stronger then ssjg goku is ,even though this goku is battle worn but still ......potara kafla is holding up very very good. So vegito would give beerus a very good fight ,i can see vegito throwing in some instant transmission combos to catch beerus off guard,after im...

the Instant Transmission+Kamehameha combo would probably be the only way to catch Cell off guard enough to hit him head-on. yes agreed that would be the only way to catch cell off guard .although i have doubts on goku being stronger then cell ,maybe him being around his mssj state. mssj goku when p...

This goku is the same one who fought andriod 19 , now for the sake of this thread i'm making goku 100% healthy and have full control of kk exactly like on dbs.
so do you think goku would get stomped like he did with jiren ? or would be put up a decent fight against cell .

So I've written on this before, but my belief is that SSJ4 granted a baseline of x500 over base. This is the SSJ multiplier 50 x the oozaru multiplier 10. This would be the equivalent to SSJ grade 1. I personally believe because it is based on the SSJ levels it allows for grades. I think this is ev...

SSJ4 is, as you said, completely different to SSJ. ...so why would it follow a similar path? Also, you have to go through Golden Oozaru to achieve it, so wouldn't it count as a "level 2" transformation by your standards? well yes ssj4 doesn't need to follow the golden ssj stages i guess ,...

SSj4 is Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru's glorified fanfic OC creation. Can it progress to higher forms with golden fur? Well how the hell are we supposed to know? :D Anyway, most folks seem to follow the gray-haired SSj5 design in their headcanons yes no one would know for sure,but i guess ill stick to at-le...

one possibility is that if needed, you could add in Ascended and Ultra states. it wouldn't be too far fetched if you think about it. look at Broly when he has SS4 form in the games. buff as hell, just like his LSS form, which theoretically is just the next step in pushing super saiyan to it's limit...

I was thinking about how the standard ssj form can be mutated/forced into stronger forms such as ssj2 and ssj3......so what about ssj4 ? ssj4 to me isn't a follow up to ssj3 and is a completely new form on its own,for example,if goku had a tail in the cell games saga and transformed into a golden oo...