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Not really. He was pushed to absurd unbelievable levels, even above Hit. His personality was grating too. Don't like him at all personally. Trunks one shots Freeza 17 one shots Trunks Trunks in one afternoon literally catches up and manages to fight SSR black Freeza trains 4 months, new "unbel...

Not really. He was pushed to absurd unbelievable levels, even above Hit. His personality was grating too. Don't like him at all personally. Trunks one shots Freeza 17 one shots Trunks Trunks in one afternoon literally catches up and manages to fight SSR black Freeza trains 4 months, new "unbel...

Gohan should have gotten to at least participate in the battles against Toppo and Jiren. Gohan was useless and weak in this arc. He did fight Toppo though. He wasn't useless or weak as you keep claiming either. Being in the same realm as Blue Goku doesn't make him weak. He never managed to as much ...

Toriyama said that 17's enhancements are all organic. Which is why he can train and get stronger. He has infinite stamina and had 10 years in front of him... On top of that, in the present, 17 had NEVER powered up, or used ki attacks. We know thanks to the manga he was aware of everything that happ...

I don't really know what to think of 17 being alive. It would have been more epic for only Frieza and Goku to be there. The two guys who were enemies between each other long ago working together. 17 being there takes that impact away a lot, at least for me. I also said time again before my thoughts...

I don't really know what to think of 17 being alive. It would have been more epic for only Frieza and Goku to be there. The two guys who were enemies between each other long ago working together. 17 being there takes that impact away a lot, at least for me. I also said time again before my thoughts...

In Roshi's eyeglasses shot when he was talking about all the friends Goku was fighting for, I noticed these characters were absent: Mr. Satan Buu Yajirobe Android 17 (oddly enough) Meanwhile Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Oolong/Puar were there. Also Roshi himself wasn't in the shot even though Roshi was the...

I am certain Freeza will win. He hasn't done much all tournament and apparently the movie has a focus on him. Goku and 17 wouldn't set anything up with their wishes, and in the manga Goku said he'd give the balls to 17. So that means he's not winning. I can see Freeza ringing out Goku and 17 at last...

You guys are kinda cute hating on 17 and stating how it makes no sense. When we had a guy surviving an explosion right before. (Vegeta) And a guy with ki disappearing and nobody questioning it. (Freeza) 17 has no ki and great speed, so he's the only candidate for perfectly faking his death. In the p...

1. Because this is the first time since the Piccolo Saga that Roshi will actually have the time to shine thanks to Mafuba (I don't count RoF since he was fodder much like Krilin and Tien). Tien and Krilin had their moments in Z, now it's Roshi's turn. 2. Roshi and Frieza aside, the order of elimina...

I usually hate the manga but this was a great chapter.

Happy to see 17 and 18 not teaming up since they rarely ever did that in the present.

Welp that was a terrible showing for Pridegeta.

:p

Sooo what website are folks reading this at? Cuz even a "certain" website that usually would have it scanlated at this point doesn't have it currently. Before anyone tries to throw the rule book at me you could just PM me if you feel like being an extravagant Samaritan It's not out. We ju...

Other than that, I do think they could get mileage off of the older, more weaker character if they put a good amount of effort into it. I think characters like Tenshinhan and the like could become more popular if they are given enough screentime and development again. It won't happen though. :( Wha...

So what happened to Toppo needing time to charge hakai ? What happened to 17 trying to attack Toppo's aura from all angles + a continuous stream to see nothing can reach it yet decides to go with rocks ? What happened to Frieza being totally fine and still mocking Toppo ? It's obvious they wrote all...

One of the weakest episode of the series ? All the amazing momentum from 125 was completely wasted. The writing was incompetent (not surprising given the writer), the direction was weak, the animation was serviceable (would have benefited from better direction), the pacing was bad... And the story d...

17 fights Toppo usings strategies and keeps trying different methods to take him down. I'm sure that barrier thing he'll use against Jiren is the same. He himself admitted that he doesn't have any chance of defeating normal Toppo power level wise. Did the same against Anilaza as well. It's not like...

I'm gonna be smart and wait because I'm not a moron. But for a show that was bashed for being too much Goku and Vegeta, I find it amusing that people are mad that 17 is still in. it goes to my theory that most dragon ball fans only truly care about the saiyans and they just act like they care about...

Noah wrote:
Sure, I guess abusing his Android Barrier skill is now praised a great tactician work.

Wait are you trolling or are you implying he hasn't showed a multitude of applications of his barrier yet ?

From traps to melee counters, he has done A LOT of unique things.

Seems like this time, vegeta will get eliminated. I dont see what se he can achieve after surpassing a god of destruction. 17 outlasting the Prince of all Saiyans? Man, I'm starting to dig the theory that there's someone on Toei staff that's a huge 17 fanboy He could use the love considering how he...