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by Grimlock
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Original Movie 14.
Replies: 12
Views: 592

Re: The Original Movie 14.

Other than the "Beerus is the reason Saiyans are evil" thing, which we definitely don't need it, I think I would like to see how that would turn out. We still don't know if it was Toei or Toriyama that presented the idea of Multiverse, do we? Unfortunately, there's no interview talking abo...
by Grimlock
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Original Movie 14.
Replies: 12
Views: 592

The Original Movie 14.

So I compiled everything we know about the original version of the movie and decided to know which version you like best: • Beerus -- Lizard vs cat. Beerus originally had a lizard-like form, but at Toriyama-sensei‘s idea, he ultimately became an Egyptian-style cat character. ------------------------...
by Grimlock
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:36 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 264
Views: 14408

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Majin Buu wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:03 amand it rubs me the wrong way when people who like Super (and Heroes for that matter) paint those who don't like it as if there's no legitimacy to that position at all.
Care to provide us with a few examples of that?
by Grimlock
Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Super Saiyan God prophecy in the future timelines
Replies: 3
Views: 513

Re: The Super Saiyan God prophecy in the future timelines

It seems that, in Dragon Ball, history is already written. Oracle Fish "predicted" Beerus would fight because it was predetermined. Trunks/Cell going to that timeline was supposed to happen. In the timelines where Trunks/Cell didn't appear, Oracle Fish didn't have any premonition at all. W...
by Grimlock
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39940
Views: 3905649

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The manga just treats SSGSS as the "next stage" of Super Saiyan God, like SS2 and 3 are to the base SS. Beerus even calls it "just a mere power up from Super Saiyan God". https://i.imgur.com/W96m7b8.png So I'm guessing they just trained for it. They kept the Super Saiyan God tra...
by Grimlock
Sat Apr 06, 2024 6:56 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 264
Views: 14408

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Dragon Ball Z gave none, but Toriyama sort of did . Kaioshin's role is not to erradicate evil in the Universe. They are there to observe the cosmos, and as the Gods of Creation, they are there to create planets and lives. ( More on Kaioshins' role here ) Freeza would wipe out lives, but you have to ...
by Grimlock
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39940
Views: 3905649

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The Monkey King wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:29 pmIt's a popular claim that in the DBS manga Goku and Vegeta didn't absorb SSJG into their base forms.
Wait, what!? How can they transform into Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan then!? :eh:
by Grimlock
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:28 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 16751
Views: 2881822

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

While a shift in management would certainly explain Dragon Ball Heroes' sudden "change of heart" (the last "big deal" I consider it did was giving Goku Black Super Saiyan Rosé 2, and that was in 2021), do we have a source for that?
by Grimlock
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Frieza's role more obvious than it seems
Replies: 10
Views: 1174

Re: Frieze's role more obvious than it seems

We don't know if Toriyama's intentions were that. And given how things have played out so far, I don't think it was. There has been no allusion whatsoever toward that intention/role. I do hope Shueisha try to incorporate most of the stuff from Neko Majin eventually, though. It would be a huge waste ...
by Grimlock
Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Zamasu came back
Replies: 43
Views: 3526

Re: If Zamasu came back

If the Makaio/Makaioshin ever get officially introduced( doubtful , being that Toriyama has passed away), Zamasu should be name-dropped by them at least as a callback. In retrospect, Makaio/Makaioshin should have been named-dropped in Future Trunks saga. So even with Toriyama, chances were always s...
by Grimlock
Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:06 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 264
Views: 14408

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Which is something one should question, why would someone not approach this on the basis of "have fun" when this is all that there is to it?
by Grimlock
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:23 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15608
Views: 2111484

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Four new DLCs on the way. Trailer.

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by Grimlock
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:07 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Saiyan 2 Appreciation Thread
Replies: 120
Views: 36891

Re: Super Saiyan 2 Appreciation Thread

It would've been great if Super Saiyan 2 could have made an appearance in Dragon Ball Super Broly and Dragon Ball Super Super Hero. The artstyles of those movies would definitely deliver us some great visuals of that form. I'm not really expecting it but there's Dragon Ball Daima to look forward to ...
by Grimlock
Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:24 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: SPARKING! ZERO - Visual Roster Checker
Replies: 16
Views: 1309

Re: SPARKING! ZERO - Visual Roster Checker

In fact, I'm not seeing Dragon Ball Super Trunks with Super Saiyan 2. This will be a huge mistake if he doesn't have it, even if the anime screwed up by not making it any different than his Super Saiyan. It was his go-to transformation for pretty much the entire saga. Goku uses it against Trunks, Za...
by Grimlock
Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:06 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1620591

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

For one, because Gohan retains his usual bang and a tiny strand of hair. Characteristics of his base form: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/7d189f81-a7a3-4af5-86d8-0da1e5c55cf7/d4pyz99-cf7a0ec9-eab7-4da5-8804-2445c8fa6ef4.gif?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdW...
by Grimlock
Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:45 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Interesting or funny pictures thread
Replies: 9898
Views: 1610948

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

It's Shin Budokai - Another Road. I was playing it on a quality higher than 4K in the PlayStation Portable emulator.
by Grimlock
Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:08 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Writers - What Can/Can't They Do?
Replies: 6
Views: 769

Re: Writers - What Can/Can't They Do?

As long as another writer is consistent with Toriyama's world and characters to the extent it feels organic I don't see an issue. But at what point can we decide it doesn't feel organic anymore? For example, I draw the line at quantity. If we keep constantly getting serious stuff, then yeah, Dragon...
by Grimlock
Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:08 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Writers - What Can/Can't They Do?
Replies: 6
Views: 769

Writers - What Can/Can't They Do?

Inspired by something I saw, I want to ask: how much do you think a(nother) writer can put their own qualities into somebody else's work? Let me clarify: It is well known that the likes of Bardock TV Special is not something Toriyama would normally do, because he was not known for writing serious st...
by Grimlock
Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5667865

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Noah wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:54 amYeah, cause that's Dragon Ball, for sure lol
Yes, it is. If characters are introduced in groups, it's Dragon Ball. If characters are not introduced in groups, it's Dragon Ball AF. It's a well-known rule of thumb of this franchise.