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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Question Are we absolutely sure that SSJ Gotenks was above SSJ3 Goku? Not equals, or roughly on the same level, but stronger. Because, when I use my formula on fusion ( HEADCANNON ALERT ) Gotenks in SSJ is slihtly less powerful than Goku. Now, now I don't ask for you to tell me "your headcannon is ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Okay you're just making comments you're not actually making an argument. Why is SSJ Gotenks<SSJ2 Vegeta? I don't need to make an argument. It's official information. In order to defeat Majin Buu, who boasted absolute strength, Goku taught Fusion to Goten and Trunks as a last resort, and thus Gotenk...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Since a lot of people are posting their lists these days, I thought I could make one of my own and give it a spin as well. I'll be adding some notes in italic explaining my logic as well when I find necessary. Kuririn : 30,000 Gohan : 45,000 ~ Enraged: 900,000 ~ Zenkai: 1,080,000 ~ Saving Piccolo: 1...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 11801

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

That was the point, Vegeta thought it will work for better but you really think he will get even weaker than Good Boo? Goku wanting to obliterate Boo has got nothing to do with him being stronger but similar to how Piccolo wanted to gather enough ki to kill Raditz and asking someone else to distrac...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 14349

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

It may be like Cell's statement on the Z Fighters vs Cell Jrs, with the term Vegeta uses in the original dialogue being translatable as either "And" or "Or". You'd have to check this out in the Japanese Anime or with a translation to be sure, though.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 11801

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

If you pay attention, it's not really supported by the story by any means. Pretty much every statement about Pure Boo compared to his fellow versions implies he's far outmatched by Super Boo and his variations. Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P7.3 Context: Vegeta grabs good Boo’s pod and wonders what will h...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread
Replies: 2100
Views: 210873

Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

What’s being said in this entry from Daizenshuu 5?

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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, it's certainly possible. Perhaps even most probable, considering the new official upper ceiling that exists on base Goku's power now and the more moderate Androids/Cell-arc power growth that goes along with it. I've never thought that 19 and 20's initial powers were all that high, being well ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Hey is it possible Android #19 is weaker than we thought? Vegeta's kick hurts him pretty bad and even leaves a mark. I don't think a off guard attack on far stronger guys has ever done that before. Even #20 manages to tank a punch from Goku without any damage. 11) toriyama said it in an interview, s...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?
Replies: 148
Views: 3863

Re: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?

dragon boss z wrote:The only explanation is fusion is based off of the users full power, not their base form.
This, basically. Merely attaining Super Saiyan God would improve the power of the fusion. I thought this was common sense even…
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:26 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

there Is an official multiplier for grade 3, right from el manga legendario. It says that ssj g3 has a physical strength 10 times stronger than the previous stage It should be said the original Japanese version doesn’t have that information. Only the Spanish version added it. So, if people want to ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

On top of what Kaboom said, Vegeta joined the Budokai with the specific purpose of fighting Gohan (And later Goku) and even admited all he wanted was to settle things with Goku. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2d/b4/c1/2db4c103e35c24fd9d1bcd33a8765599.jpg So yeah, him saying he's superior to the others is...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Members of the Goku Alliance (or “Z Fighters”, if you want to call them that)
Replies: 14
Views: 757

Re: Members of the Goku Alliance (or “Z Fighters”, if you want to call them that)

Yeah the Z Fighters aren't a official organization like the Avengers or the Justice League. It's just Goku and company training around and looking for a good fight. Honestly, I think the Z Fighters kinda disbanded after the Cell Saga. Most of the guys went in separate ways, and nowadays it's basical...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread
Replies: 2100
Views: 210873

Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/03/f5/83/03f583fa1665037437e6125c6d4dcdd1.jpg What's Goku saying here? I know this was translated in the Strength Checker, but Steve Simmons' translation has Goku saying "Super Saiyan size" in the second balloon rather than just "Super Saiyan". Is that an accurate translat...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Who owns the rights to Dragon Ball?
Replies: 3
Views: 384

Re: Who owns the rights to Dragon Ball?

Luso Saiyan wrote:Shueisha owns the rights. Shueisha is a publisher while Bird Studio is Toriyama's design studio.
And what about Caramel Mama?
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Who owns the rights to Dragon Ball?
Replies: 3
Views: 384

Who owns the rights to Dragon Ball?

Just something I started thinking about. Who has the copyright over the series? it Toriyama himself? Bird Studio? Shueisha? Toei? All of them?

Also, what's the difference between Bird Studio and Shueisha?
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Would ToP Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi Have Fared In DBZ?
Replies: 75
Views: 3465

Re: How Would ToP Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi Have Fared In DBZ?

PFM18 wrote:Why do you say that?
Not sure about the Anime, but the Manga has Roshi taking on Kahseral (Whose power is in Base Goku's league) and he implies he could've held his own with Frost as well. I just figure out Kuririn and Tenshinhan shouldn't fall that far behind from Roshi in terms of skill.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Would ToP Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi Have Fared In DBZ?
Replies: 75
Views: 3465

Re: How Would ToP Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi Have Fared In DBZ?

Roshi would go pretty far. Might even solo. Dunno about Kuririn and Tenshinhan though, but they shouldn't fall far behind.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:02 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Agreed with all of this. Interestingly, new Weekly Jump translations say Gogeta = Vegetto https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1070890625803804672 We could either chalk it up as hype for the movie, or perhaps, that Gogeta = Vegetto in Super's continuity, while Vegetto > Gogeta in the original manga's...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11114
Views: 663329

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Thoughts on this? http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2018/12/04/new-old-translation-gogeta-vs-vegetto/ Was translated recently, basically says Gogeta > Vegetto. What do y'all think? Does this change how we view statements pertaining to Potara > Fusion Dance from the Boo Arc? Weird, I thought Herms said a wh...