Kanzenshuu

Goku has been training his whole life and he's still weaker than Freeza. Both times they fought Goku only won because of a miracle (A legendary transformation nobody had seen in 1,000 years and then Freeza's own hubris). Hot take, but I actually think Goku isn't gifted and has average potential for ...

18 performed better than Piccolo at the ToP and I remember a preview for it saying she can give Super Saiyans trouble or something like that. Obviously this can be a reference to the Android arc but if the shoe fits for the ToP then... Giving a SSJ trouble is really vague. Ribrianne was weaker than...

Bardock [DBS] vs Appule. Galactic King vs Kid Vegeta. Guldo [No psychic abilities] vs Nappa. Tagoma [Pre Training] vs Dodoria. 18 [ToP arc] vs Frost [ToP arc]. They're about the same. Bardock barely wins since I imagine he's the better fighter [s]and has asspull power too.[/s] I have Galactic King ...

Thank you. I was thinking about this the other day, we know very little about the original movie idea. How much of the script did Toriyama change exactly? I've seen people say he doesn't deserve all that credit because he only changed designs and the setting, but the descriptions of the original tak...

In CH. 93 Broly was going Berserk. Broly could always go SSJ. He'd just lose control doing so. They made it clear in chapter 102 or 103 that he couldn't transform at all. Super Boo (Vegetto absorbed, permanent fusion) has to go through the events of Super. He kills Shin, meaning no Beerus, but he s...

Of course Broly wasn't the strongest. He couldn't even go Super Saiyan!

Granolah and Gas were total dogwater. Gas at his best was still a ragdoll to UI Goku at full power. Wouldn't be surprised if 73 Moro could give Granolah trouble.

Chapter 103 Broly compared to Broly (vs Blue Gogeta).....which one is supposed to be stronger? I was under the impression that Broly didn't access his "Beserk" level of strength vs Gohan, therefor he is still way stronger than what chapter 103 showed......or am I wrong? It depends. If you...

If you compare the panels, Broly got much bigger when he transformed. I think it's safe to say he was a SSJFP/LSSJ/Controlled Berserker. I think he's a bit stronger so Ikari, Blue and Ultimate can be on equal terms, but that's probably not enough to surpass Gogeta. I don't see Current Broly beating ...

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:00 pm More Fat Gotenks. You're a true comedy genius, Akira.

Just want to point out I've been vindicated by the news that AT wrote chapter 101-103. I knew it!

Android 19 [At his max against Vegeta but can't absorb more power] vs Piccolo [Start of the Android arc]. Future Trunks [Start of the Android arc and no Super Saiyan] vs Gohan and Krillin [Both start of the Android arc]. Chaoz [Android arc] vs 1st form Freeza [Namek arc]. Videl [Post Ki training] v...

Dismissing the movie for the manga isn't right imo. The manga is pretty much a recap of the movie. Anyway I don't think it even needs to be mentioned that Gohan is rusty since he's at his weakest a while after, but the boys should be as strong as aways. The manga just confirmed they're very into tra...

You mean a throwaway power statement from Toriyama about the movie doesn't apply to the series? This is crazy and totally unexpected!

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Who is the strongest character from Dragon Ball Z current manga SSJ1 Trunks and Goten can defeat together? I have them at DBZ Gotenks level individually, so I'd say DBZ Ultimate Gohan. (DBS) Base Broly vs (DBS) 4th form Freeza Broly's power depends on his mood. If he's feeling like it, even Golden ...

Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, when characters assume someone is impressive and it turning up differently, even the most reliable ones like Piccolo, Vegeta etc. Same way in the opposite. This is usually overlooked when people crop panels instead of reading the content in its whole. Interestin...

I wouldn't compare her to a villain, but I get the point. She's monopolizing what's supposed to be a gift from god to the humans for selfish reasons. I didn't know she had a wordwide team just for that though. I thought she either asked Goku to get them (Like in the Cell Saga), or she just gets them...

I think the Daizenshuu 7 only says Vegeta and then Chozenshuu (Which is like a Daizenshuu update) adds Goku to the mix. Always found this line really weird. Goten and Trunks are super powerful and fusion is super haxed. Gotenks being on Majin Boo's level should be the bare minimum. I think the "...

TheSaiyanGod said exactly what I was going to say. The impression I got was that all these fighters are in the same tier. Gohan is a hair above Goku and Piccolo is a fair bit behind, but still respectable and on the same tier. No idea about Broly though. He does worse than Goku For the power level ...

Thinking is one thing, but the narrative already factually said they can't. Literally the only time fusion was compared to Beerus in the narrative: Ch. 23, pg. 43.6-7 Context: as Vegetto prepares his Final Kamehameha Kaioshin: “A-amazing… This is incredible…! The power of Vegetto… Could it already ...

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here.

If you want something from the movies, Gogeta Blue ran circles around someone as strong as Beerus.

I think Goku said he screwed the Hakai because he didn't make it explode. Had Vegeta really seen Destruction multiple times though? I don't remember Beerus ever using destruction before in the series, aside from when he killed Zamasu. I think it might be worth pointing out that, in one of those vide...