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by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So the chapter is out and it looks like Gohan Beast is on UI Goku's level. Its hard to say if he's stronger or not when Goku was briefly stated to have advantage over him because of his experience and Goku also ended their match quickly. Gohan Beast was only able to land hits on UI Goku when he tap...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well, this will certainly generate some discussions and I guess it remains to be seen where they will ultimately go regarding Vegeta's power, but in this modern Dragon Ball world where every major player has their own thing/power, I just find it hard to believe that they would drop Ultra Ego. I can ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Honestly? It felt like Goku was just so shocked by Gohan's powered up strikes that he went out of UI. He went right back at it as if nothing happened afterwards. Otherwise, yeah, Gohan's power is reeeeeally up there. What bugged me the most was Vegeta not using Ultra Ego at all against Gohan, for s...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well, the full leaked chapter is out. In the end, the whole thing just felt like a sparring match. Goku said that it wasn't about beating Gohan, he just wanted to test his strength (although yeah, we know that both were using full power), Broly wasn't losing as it seemed from the leaks, and Vegeta ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 831
Views: 78776

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

I could be wrong, but isn't each transformation taking up a different slot the best case scenario? Obviously, the current roster will not be the way we saw in the trailer. We will have a Goku for each era and the transformations will appear once you select him. It will be more streamlined But the tr...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 14161

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

As far as the manga goes, I think people overblown the little moments where Goku might not come across as the smartest guy in the room Goku overcame enemies through his battle prowess or outsmarted Vegeta in pretty much every manga arc up until this point. He broke Hit's technique by learning from t...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Despite the line about Cell Max being an enemy that perhaps not even Goku and Vegeta would defeat, in the context of the manga the implications are slightly different. This was said by Gohan, but the last time Gohan and Piccolo saw Goku and Vegeta was in the fight against Moro, so both are not aware...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it's easy to assume that Piccolo's words shouldn't be taken at face value here, especially when you take the entire movie in context. The Gammas are shown to be relatively equal to Ultimate Gohan, who has been consistently portrayed in Super as below SSB Goku/Vegeta. Even assuming that his a...
by TheSaiyanGod
Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 92 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 48
Views: 10183

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 92 - Official Discussion Thread

Is it just me, or does Toyotaro struggle to draw the Gammas? Something looks off about them. I can’t put my finger on what’s wrong exactly. I think he's just not used to drawing them that often. It's just like how early DBS art was considerably different and the character designs changed over time ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Super Re-Read
Replies: 277
Views: 58934

Re: The Super Re-Read

Wow, it's been a while. Glad to see MagnificentPonta back and with the Super re-read which is a fantastic thread. I also don't entirely agree with the ''first half good second half bad'' discourse as I think the second half of the arc has great moments too, but this first half is definitely where th...
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:07 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 2336
Views: 420237

Re: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread

So... • Bardock was outright stated to be stronger than Nappa in-universe. The latter's power level was never mentioned, we only knew it through a guidebook that puts him at 4,000. So even though this was popular knowledge, it's still cool that being stated in-universe. • What confirms Goku to be B...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm curious about people suddenly putting Beast Gohan and Cell Max above Granolah arc characters, and even above Black Frieza who one shotted both TUI and UE. I believe that when Beast Gohan and Orange Piccolo appear in the manga, they will be scaled to the current levels of Goku and Vegeta, but the...
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it is necessary to remember that in the movie itself it is emphasized that the mind is essential to allow the user to extract and maximize all their strength, as we saw in the conversation between Goku and Vegeta. So while Cell Max's body is complete, the fact that he doesn't have a mind pro...
by TheSaiyanGod
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5588937

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I'm surprised Toyo is so wary of claiming such simple things without confirmation from Toriyama (Granolah's father or the name of Gas's transformations). After ToP, the feeling is that his ideas started to come out more, but he probably feels the need to check everything with Toriyama nonetheless. I...
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The events of Super Hero as they occur in the movie and the continuation of the ToP in the manga through the Moro and Granolah arcs were intended to be separate stories as Iyoku clarified in an interview. Therefore, it's no surprise that the manga as of now has a much different understanding of Bro...
by TheSaiyanGod
Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5588937

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Especially the fact that meditation is somehow a method of training that Goku seems skeptical of despite him being shown to be meditating multiple times during the Granolah arc in order to get better at using ultra instinct. I think this reaction from him was strange beyond the context of the Grano...
by TheSaiyanGod
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 551589

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

It matters for the matter how Vegeta will come to this conclusion... since Jiren doesn't say the method.... Not really seeing how this disproves anything. Vegeta doesn't say he's meditating because he saw Jiren do it (anime version), that's just the way he found to train the mind and to be able to ...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 551589

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Yet it completely conflicts with the Moro arc where the giant form returned. That's not the point tho. I'm talking about the use of these ideas (because the execution has conflicted with both manga and anime anyway, the movie is its own continuity). Obviously in the end we have no way of actually k...
by TheSaiyanGod
Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 551589

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Did this movie really need to give Piccolo not just one, but two new forms? Maybe not, but I assume that creating an intermediate form that allows Piccolo to take on high tier level opponents while saving a form that actually puts him on the same level as them makes it easier to develop fights. You...
by TheSaiyanGod
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39828
Views: 3837074

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think you can reasonably combine this with the manga without too many hiccups. You'd probably end up with something like Broly > Cell Max > UI Goku > UE Vegeta > Orange Piccolo, which is fine. Broly was already compared to Beerus and I don't remember anything par...