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by Thani
Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I read the chapter too, Gohan powered up some and then bypassed Goku's ui speed and dodging and hit him SO hard he lost UI, and apparently Gohan hasn't masted this form yet either. So in terms of power Gohan is higher but as Vegeta points out there is a gap in experience with Goku having the experi...
by Thani
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20093

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

So Beast Gohan is in the same league as Perfect UI Goku which also Ultra Ego Vegeta is in and Black Frieza is above all that and I guess Orange Piccolo sits below all of this.. Correct. Gohan still considers Piccolo pretty awesome, though, so the difference might be small enough for him to contend....
by Thani
Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20093

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Don't get me wrong, I love Gohan, and I'm as excited about his Beast form as Goku is, but, if Beast really is just his rage ramped up to 11... it's just super saiyan 5 and that's so disappointing given the path he's taken to get here. What happened to finding a path to an ultimate form apart from h...
by Thani
Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20093

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

I hate how, every time now after Goku’s fight with Granolah, his UI has been depicted as simply a generic power-up. Gohan's Beast form is just that, a monstrous raw numbers boost that somehow puts him on the level of gods, kinda like Jiren's strength. But as the Granolah arc clarified, Goku’s silve...
by Thani
Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20093

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

I genuinely disliked this chapter. Taking Carmine and Thug #10 to a trip to Beerus' Planet? Having Gohan fight Trunks and Goten beforehand and do nothing really interesting with that? Not to mention it had a way better fight choreography than Gohan vs Goku, which was as generic as it could get. I ge...
by Thani
Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back
Replies: 39
Views: 2150

Re: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back

Give Zamasu a boyfriend! Hey, Freeza's single right now! Technically he does love himself, he even fuse with himself. Can't exactly get closer than that. Zamasu hates mortals, therefore would hate Freeza. good, that'll make it hotter the dialogue between those two would be amazing , especially if t...
by Thani
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But when did Broly got to near death? He was pummeled, but didn't seem very hurt, and Gogeta's last kamehameha never hit him. All other instances of "zenkais" happened after the saiyans body was left near death. Broly came close to dying, but not because of damage. Gogeta's kamehameha migh...
by Thani
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

SupremeKai25 wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:51 pm
Actually, was he not having trouble following the speed at which Dyspo and his enemies were moving around?
Indeed, he was. But then later he was having no trouble with both Jiren and (both versions of) UI Goku fighting around.
by Thani
Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: There was no reason for Gas to fear UE Vegeta.
Replies: 3
Views: 440

Re: There was no reason for Gas to fear UE Vegeta.

Plus, it's a good old case of suspension of disbelief. Vegeta could have crossed the distance at whatever speed, but the story needed him to stop cold on his tracks just before hitting Gas.

Science really does not apply in those stories.
by Thani
Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I mean, he was at the epicenter of his own timeline-erasing technique and later was shown floating in the nothingness left with not a single scratch. You could argue that he's immune to his own techniques, of course, but then... He was capable of perceiving the whole fight of UI Goku vs Jiren at the...
by Thani
Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Honestly it's not even stated that it's Grand Priest who's doing that to angels who break their code. As far as we can tell, it's a natural phenomenon that, at the very least, the Grand Priest is able to undo somehow. It's really vague, though.
by Thani
Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly just regained his crown with the minimal training he's done. What's the big deal? He went from from base level to Blue fusion in one fight, why can't he get a couple times stronger with actual training? In hindsight, Toyotaro probably "ignored" Uchida because he just slipped a spoil...
by Thani
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly is, at the same time, probably stronger than Beerus and an ant compared to Black Freeza who's NOT EVEN ON THE LEVEL OF THE GODS OF DESTRUCTION YET, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH BELMOD AND BEERUS I'm not sure we should assume he's an ant compared to Black Freeza yet. Remember, he's heavily nerfed right...
by Thani
Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think Broly is top dog but do genuinely think this is a fuck up of the broader super continuity, is a retcon, and that there just wasn't clear enough communication about this amongst Toyo and others. I don't think there was any hidden meaning behind Goku saying he's never faced anyone as tough as...
by Thani
Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

About Freeza, I was rewatching the Broly movie and I think there's basis to believe he was already extremely stronger than before, not just a bit like it was initially thought. He witnesses SS Broly trashing the fuck out of Goku and Vegeta together, yet when he ends up with the bill he decides to t...
by Thani
Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:42 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 13890

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

Freeza brought Broly to the scene, so it'd be fitting if Broly takes care of him. Yup could see that happening. Speaking of - they're obviously hinting that Broly will get some new form/powerup/transformation to utilize his full strenght so whaddya all think it's gonna be? New design, canon repurpo...
by Thani
Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Maybe Vegeta is referring to everyone currently as of Age 782-783 which is SH. So at THAT point in time Jiren, Broly, and Frieza are not TOO MUCH stronger than Goku and Vegeta physically and maybe even power level wise BUT they wield their powers better when USING them? That's pretty much the gist ...
by Thani
Mon Dec 25, 2023 4:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:09 pm If Toppo is saying Jiren surpasses Belmond in power level, then we’re back to step one.
Indeed we are hahaha
by Thani
Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’m starting to think Jiren is just plain weaker than Belmond in raw power. Toppo says Jiren is stronger “in terms of combat skill alone”. I think that would be more or less correct. In raw power, Jiren wasn't that much stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta, according to Super Hero. He can make the differe...
by Thani
Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't think that was a power thing, Special Beam Canon is meant to pierce and Gohan wasn't so sure his was that good. I think Gohan just hasn't mastered it to the level Piccolo has so its piercing ability wasn't as great. But Piccolo immediately corrected him by saying it was "magnificent&qu...