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I'm assuming you think the Gammas were stronger than Goku and Vegeta by the time they fought Cell Max or at least comparable? I do recall Hedo suggesting that the Gammas obtain data as they fight. Perhaps that made a difference. Yes, precisely. Of course, their intel about Cell Max played a big fac...

I'm assuming you think the Gammas were stronger than Goku and Vegeta by the time they fought Cell Max or at least comparable? I do recall Hedo suggesting that the Gammas obtain data as they fight. Perhaps that made a difference. Yes, precisely. Of course, their intel about Cell Max played a big fac...

Piccolo remarks that it was thanks to Gamma 2 that Cell Max's power took a dive ! And he saying Gamma 2 is the only person Dr Hedo should be thanking for saving the World. Piccolo saying to Gohan that without the help of Gamma 1 and 2, they would not have able to beat Cell Max (Gohan Beast + Orange...

There's no way Orange Piccolo is on par with SSJB. Gamma 2 is a SSJB or above level character, which Ultimate Piccolo keeps up with until he gets angry and starts to overtake him. When he transforms to his Orange form he completely destroys Gamma 2 tanking all of his attacks and one shotting him, i...

If Orange Piccolo is as strong as Super Saiyan Blue Goku then Cell Max can't be that powerful. Stack him up the anime series and the guy is maybe weaker than Agnilasa. There's no way Orange Piccolo is on par with SSJB. Gamma 2 is a SSJB or above level character, which Ultimate Piccolo keeps up with...

If Orange Piccolo is as strong as Super Saiyan Blue Goku then Cell Max can't be that powerful. Stack him up the anime series and the guy is maybe weaker than Agnilasa. There's no way Orange Piccolo is on par with SSJB. Gamma 2 is a SSJB or above level character, which Ultimate Piccolo keeps up with...

I’ve seen more than one illogical video or post scaling Piccolo’s forms in Super Hero. There’s a few points needed to establish the power of Gamma 1 and 2 to get a better sense of where Ultimate Piccolo falls. First, Gamma 1 and 2 are implied to be the same or close to the same level, which is stat...

Not to mention that they didn't show 4 of the other existing universes, which in theory would allow for even more powerful people to live in those universes, it was even implied that this was the case since they said that those 4 universes have a higher "mortal level"... except that they ...

What do you think they're building for in the story? I know at one time there were rumors of another tournament. If we jump forward to the end of Super Hero in the timeline and you consider where all the characters, new and old, are in terms of power, no other universese would stand anywhere near a ...

I'm making a power hierarchy list, and assuming the movies continuity has all power references referring to the TOP era DB and DBS: Broly. Meaning Gamma 1 and 2 are about the same power as TOP SSJB Goku and Vegeta, since that's where they capped in the Broly movie. Using this, I'm placing Final Goh...

I'm making a power hierarchy list, and assuming the movies continuity has all power references referring to the TOP era DB and DBS: Broly. Meaning Gamma 1 and 2 are about the same power as TOP SSJB Goku and Vegeta, since that's where they capped in the Broly movie. Using this, I'm placing Final Goh...

Your understanding is correct. It’s also exactly how he describes his own fighting in the manga. Re: Gohan and Piccolo: It’s really hard to say how they’ll shake out against UI and UE Goku and Vegeta based on when the film was written and its loose connection to the specific details of current mang...

Orange finally makes a pretty definitive statement on his increase in power given he can't keep up with Gamma 2 in Ultimate at that point and undeniably stomps him with ease in Orange. Hard to argue when Gohan is SSJB level in his Ultimate form and Gamma 1/2 are at an equal or higher level at that ...

Which quite fits with a lot of stuff going for him in the anime especially: it's basically a partial Ultra Instinct. Your understanding is correct. It’s also exactly how he describes his own fighting in the manga. Re: Gohan and Piccolo: It’s really hard to say how they’ll shake out against UI and U...

Just no, SSB Goku and Vegeta are around Gamma 1/2 and the Ultimate forms. After seeing the movie and just how above Cell Max Gohan was in his Final form along with the line Goku and Vegeta probably couldn't have won: I'd truly say Final Gohan>Ultra Goku and Vegeta>Orange Piccolo>SSB x 20 Goku and S...

Final Gohan >>> Cell Max ~ SSB Goku/Vegeta > Orange Piccolo >> Ultimate Gohan > Gamma 1/2 > Potential Unleashed Piccolo Just no, SSB Goku and Vegeta are around Gamma 1/2 and the Ultimate forms. After seeing the movie and just how above Cell Max Gohan was in his Final form along with the line Goku a...

It's from MS SHADOW review : https://www.fanverse.org/threads/dragon-ball-super-super-hero-summary.1261253/ 1) Curious, Gohan asks him how much POWER he has left and Gamma 1 answers that he still has 82% left in his tank. Gohan then smiles awkwardly, saying "You gotta be kidding me!" 2) G...

Several things to consider. GAMMA 2 wasn't at full power against orange Piccolo. Picolo wasn't able to damage cell when GAMMA 2 full power weakened Cell Max. Fat Gotenks himself is able to slightly crack Cell Max's dome. GAMMA 1 at 18% is equal to Ultimate Gohan. Gohan beat a WEAKENED cell (thanks ...

I'll ask this again as it got last pages and I'm really curious about this. So how do we scale this to the rest of the series now? Done have to completely ignore the manga because even though the movie is chronologically set afterwards it was made at the same time so doesn't acknowledge it? There's...

The manga may be a little vaguer about Piccolo’s power level, but the anime gives us a good indication he’s well above where most people place him going into the ToP. When training with Gohan he demonstrates the ability to easily overpower a SSJ2 Gohan, who at this point has been training enough to ...