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by MasenkoHA
Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

I'm surprised he knew going into the Boo arc he was going to end it and still tried to make Gohan the lead character. I just assumed the attempt to make Gohan the main character was to try to make the manga run a bit longer, while acknowledging Goku had been exhausted as a character. But yeah I'm no...
by MasenkoHA
Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Weirdly enough, The thing about the half breed saiyans not having the will to improve and push themselves like their full blooded fathers always kind of rubbed me the wrong way, at least when you incorporate the context of the original DB. When Goku went through his adventures as a kid, he contende...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
Replies: 44
Views: 1983

Re: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution

. You simply can't take another non-white nation's character, or even parts of their culture, and repurpose it for your own white nation's culture , even though the opposite is true I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and ask you to elaborate because otherwise fucking yikes What the fuck was I sup...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:53 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
Replies: 44
Views: 1983

Re: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution

. You simply can't take another non-white nation's character, or even parts of their culture, and repurpose it for your own white nation's culture , even though the opposite is true I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and ask you to elaborate because otherwise fucking yikes . It has very little to...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:50 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Zephyr wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:32 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:07 amPiccolo even told him he could worry about being a scholar after he saved the world.
Goku tells him the same thing during the Cell Games.
Shit, I forgot about that. No wonder the kid associated world peace with studying.
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:07 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

The interesting thing about Goten and Trunks is their losing interest in fighting is the exact same thing Kame Sennin feared would happen to Goku and Krillin and went out of his way to prevent. Kame Sennin worried that if Goku and Krillin thought they were the best at their young age they wouldn't s...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: What DB movie would you show a 10 year old who's seen OG DB twice?
Replies: 6
Views: 158

Re: What DB movie would you show a 10 year old who's seen OG DB twice?

For my money, Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle. (Movie 2) Movie 4 was made after Dragon Ball Z and definitely feels somewhat like it was made to appease Z fans by being more action-y complete with Goku screaming and powering up in the climax. Movie 1 rehashes the first arc too closely the two of ...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:05 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

I mean sure, circumstances dictated Goku needed to comeback. But the story itself never has Goku address his entire reasoning for staying dead in the Cell arc, the question becomes why Goku feels differently now compared to the past. Theres no dialogue or internal thought process to provide insight...
by MasenkoHA
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:26 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: SS3 Vegeta
Replies: 7
Views: 237

Re: SS3 Vegeta

Oh, certainly not in the Boo arc. I liked that it was at least kind of exclusive... I mean, yeah, Gotenks got it too, but at least it's not like every Saiyan started getting it. I also really like that Gohan was brought up to Super Saiyan 3 power without actually achieving Super Saiyan 3. And quite...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Its more about that narrative being put on a particular path that eventually goes nowhere, imo it is bad writing to make a big deal out of the fact that earth has to learn to live without Goku only to later to bring him up without any tangible follow up on that narrative thread. Its the thing GRRM ...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: SS3 Vegeta
Replies: 7
Views: 237

Re: SS3 Vegeta

I don't see a good reason for it other than to please Vegeta fans.

It's something I think GT could have done in the Baby saga though.
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:54 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: DBZ's TV Ratings reign is over.
Replies: 20
Views: 833

Re: DBZ's TV Ratings reign is over.

I very specifically remember that happening when I was expecting to see the next episode after Vegeta's kamikaze attack. "Gohan's First Date" even debuted in the second run of those episodes in November after being skipped for being set to air too close after 9/11 and featuring buildings ...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: DBZ's TV Ratings reign is over.
Replies: 20
Views: 833

Re: DBZ's TV Ratings reign is over.

. Come to think of it, I remember someone else saying it went back to Raditz after Final Atonement first aired. It definitely looped back to Warriors of the Dead at least after the first time that Final Atonement aired . I very specifically remember that happening when I was expecting to see the ne...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Replies: 46
Views: 1190

Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"

To be fair, the fact that Frieza is a genocidal maniac kind of overshadows the landshark thing. Him conquering planets is a big part of his character, but it largely happens off screen. We actually see him killing innocent people regularly, and taking pleasure out if it. We hope for his downfall pr...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4620
Views: 580644

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I was just watching Piccolo's scene after Geets blows himself up vs Buu, he says he is now fighting for others and this deserves his respect. By now Piccolo respects everybody I guess, but did Yamcha or Chaozu ever do something to earn Piccolo's respect, like Vegeta did? I assume he respected Tensh...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:14 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Replies: 46
Views: 1190

Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"

, yes it may have influenced him May have. He straight up said it did. . If a kid saw Freeza as a land shark it was from the influence of the media or their parents, not Dragon Ball. "If a kid watched or read X-Men and saw that discriminating against people for the way they were born is wrong ...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:35 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Replies: 46
Views: 1190

Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"

He 100 percent was making a statement about land sharks Sure he mentions them within the context of the time he was writing, but ultimately that's not the message Toriyama was hoping for his readers to get. As 90sDBZ said his storytelling approach was very much "bad guys are bad because that's...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:24 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
Replies: 44
Views: 1983

Re: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution

Whitewashing aside he made a decent Boo saga era Gohan, shame that wasn't the character he was supposed to be playing, but that's not his fault just the way the character was written Goku isn't white? Oh he's super white. Based on the super caucasian Jackie Chan and the Monkey King from the very wh...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 177
Views: 6338

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

I think people overstate just how much Gohan was "intended" to become the main character. Yeah a lot of people seem to think Toriyama was either setting up Gohan to be the new lead from the moment he was introduced (and I think Toei is to blame for a lot of that) or from the beginning of ...
by MasenkoHA
Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:38 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Replies: 46
Views: 1190

Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"

Iy, but I don't think Toriyama was making a statement about land sharks or anything, moreso to present them as a challenge for Goku to overcome and become stronger From there, the enemy characters rapidly began to escalate. Having become the strongest on the Earth, Goku and co. had also beat the Sa...