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by Ziegander
Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828345

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Philosophical question. Do any of you ever wonder why these same arguments over the decades never seem to end? Just recycle over and over again? Its because even when something is said outright, in plain and simple terms, it's still not good enough for DB fans. It almost seems like people don't wan...
by Ziegander
Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20079

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Don't get me wrong, I love Gohan, and I'm as excited about his Beast form as Goku is, but, if Beast really is just his rage ramped up to 11... it's just super saiyan 5 and that's so disappointing given the path he's taken to get here. What happened to finding a path to an ultimate form apart from hi...
by Ziegander
Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20079

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

My point is, against Gas with "True UI," or whatever, and now even with "Mastered UI" against Gohan, he hasn't been fighting any different than anyone else. He hasn't been fighting like he did even when he debuted Omen against Jiren or like when he "mastered" "UI&q...
by Ziegander
Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20079

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

I hate how, every time now after Goku’s fight with Granolah, his UI has been depicted as simply a generic power-up. Gohan's Beast form is just that, a monstrous raw numbers boost that somehow puts him on the level of gods, kinda like Jiren's strength. But as the Granolah arc clarified, Goku’s silver...
by Ziegander
Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Gas seems pretty confident in his abilities as they stand (despite that his confidence may be misplaced). He reacts to the Bardock encounter as if it was a fluke; that he has always been stronger. This is not necessarily a prediction, but if he had one wish, he could conceivably wish back Bardock s...
by Ziegander
Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The crocodile tears here are so delicious.

How pissed are you all going to be when the next time we see Bardock, in the flashback Gas has from 40 years ago, he enters the False Super Saiyan state in order to overcome Gas' superior battle power? Can't wait for all of the salt.
by Ziegander
Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:42 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

For what it's worth, in 73, to distinguish blue from blue UI, Toyo gave the blue form those drops of blue aura and removed them when going UI in blue. Nice, okay, that makes sense too, because I know a lot of people were wondering why Toyo had brought the blue drops back considering those had last ...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

IS he using Blue UI in the latest chapter? If he is, then I was simply mistaken. I've been under the impression he was just in his normal Blue form. If he's using Blue UI, then I can buy it with little to no issue, I was just under the impression that somehow because it was really clever he was able...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

But we're supposed to just go with Goku figuring out where Granolah is going to attack, waiting for it, watching for it, and then consciously dodging Granolah's attacks, and that working when UI couldn't do that, just because, ohhhhhh, nice one Goku, you figured it out? That doesn't make any sense....
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Do you see where I'm going with this? Ultra Instinct lets Goku dodge automatically, but how do you dodge something you aren't familiar with? It's because he now knows Granolah's shtick that he's able to barely dodge the attacks. And he's still taking tremendous damage. If he was using true ultra in...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Okay, so, still, I never saw it as Goku shifting his internal organs Yakuza assassin style using UI anyway, and now that after lots of additional discussion more people are agreeing that, no, that's not what Goku did in his latest match up against an even more powerful Granolah, how exactly is Goku'...
by Ziegander
Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

So... okay, overall, awesome chapter, I'm really excited to see where they take the story after this, but, um... after thinking about this for more than a minute... I thought Goku learning to adapt to Granolah's fighting style was really neat at first, but then... I realized how really dumb and inva...
by Ziegander
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Well... how exactly did Monaito upend Granola's life the first time? Maybe he was the one who hired the Saiyans to attack the planet and he's trying to repent? Could be interesting. Freeza being responsible for the attack seems like a red herring considering he hasn't shown up once in the arc. ... ...
by Ziegander
Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Well... how exactly did Monaito upend Granola's life the first time?
by Ziegander
Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Granola's remaining 3 years of life might play a role now too, maybe in some form of time skip during or in the end of the story. Also possible! That number was so specific I’ve been wondering if it wouldn’t be used to bridge a timeskip to close to the original epilogue. (Technically it should prob...
by Ziegander
Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:59 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Krillin the Destroyer
Replies: 0
Views: 1552

Krillin the Destroyer

So... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWflfpaW4AAIThc.jpg I've been planning a Super-Era rework of Krillin for a while now, a new chance, a new awakening of power and dignity for our little bald badass in which he builds upon the teachings he learned from the Turtle Hermit and refines his existing techn...
by Ziegander
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Piccolo Discussion
Replies: 41
Views: 4125

Re: Piccolo Discussion

I think what people are saying that, Piccolo is never going to be fighting the fights Goku and Vegeta are fighting anymore, never going to be going on the adventures Goku and Vegeta go on, they're right, but they're missing a bigger picture, I think so. I think, if we're talking about what should To...
by Ziegander
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576534

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

lol you guys, look, you know I've been one of THE most vocal critics of Toyo's writing and his ability to plot a full, coherent, interesting arc, but if you think bringing Bardock back into the present story would ruin Dragon Ball for you, I just don't understand you all anymore. There are myriad di...
by Ziegander
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Ultra Instinct doesn’t come WITH a powerup...
Replies: 18
Views: 2093

Re: Ultra Instinct doesn’t come WITH a powerup...

I think what you mean to say is, Ultra Instinct does not, itself, directly increase the Power Level of the user. It does nothing to amplify the actual Ki, whether that be dormant Ki, active Ki, or whatever. There is no multiplicative effect like any of the Super Saiyan states, which makes me wonder ...
by Ziegander
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I believe “God ki” and its “sensibility level” are a continuum of degrees..
Replies: 2
Views: 567

Re: I believe “God ki” and its “sensibility level” are a continuum of degrees..

Honestly? "Sensible." 8) But seriously, it's a wholly logical and well-reasoned hypothesis, it would make sense and, perhaps most importantly, it's something I could see Toyotaro thinking about and implementing. Not Toriyama as it's far too technical, I think, for something Toriyama would ...