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by SupremeKai25
Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

HOWEVER, Zamasu isn't using this form here. Instead he is in his "Halo" form (also evident from the trailers and the anime).
When he emerges from the smoke, he has the Rosé aura that he had only in his Corrupted state and not in his Halo form. Maybe he can switch between the two forms?
by SupremeKai25
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We're still ignoring the fact that Future Zamasu, as shown in episode 61 (when Goku buries him with ki blasts) and 63, literally WANTS to be hit because he seeks to revel in his immortality? I guess we are. New Heroes episode tonight and looks like Jiren can kill Zamasu easily but To be fair, Jiren ...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Future Zamasu isn't useless because he is inherently weak, if he is useless (debatable), he is simply because he stopped training after he got immortality. Zamasu was a natural prodigy who, according to Goku, could even rival Beerus one day. Also he was a formidable opponent, even without immortalit...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku did blow Zamasu’s head off in 61. To be fair it was a shot fired at point blank. Anything fired that close will do a tremendous amount of damage. That does not necessarily show that Future Zamasu wasn't around the level of a Super Saiyan Blue. Trunks was also not on the level of Merged Zamasu....
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The situation is ambiguous. You cannot ignore the first half of episode 57, where Future Zamasu is seen trading blows with Blue Goku and even overpower him for a moment. Furthermore, if Future Zamasu were just a bug compared to Goku and Vegeta, even a ki blast could blow him to smithereens, somethin...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super Saiyan Trunks kick Rose in that same episode. And that's was before Trunks blocked and parried Black's blade. That in of itself is another example of Super's horrible writing when it comes to power levels. Trunks went from getting the shit kicked out of him by base black to being able to hold...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

People who say that Future Zamasu is not SSB level because Trunks beat him ignore the fact that Future Zamasu is a crazy masochist who wants to get hit so that he can revel in his immortality. Future Zamasu even overpowered Blue Goku at one point in episode 57.
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Black could just use his Time Ring to flee to another timeline and from there plot his revenge. Or maybe he could go through that rift that he opened with his scythe, it was never clarified if it was some kind of time rift or just a physical manifestation of the divine anger within him. Although I´m...
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Interesting how before fusing Black considered Rage Trunks to be nothing more than fodder, so much so that he thought Future Zamasu alone would be able to deal with him. I wonder if Black was simply too prideful, or if Trunks had truly grown so weak compared to Black, despite his new transformation.
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well guys, what about Ultimate Gohan after the ToP? Would he force Black to use SSJ or even Rosé? Because against Base Black, even if the latter evolves uncontrollably, Gohan should unleash his potential faster. He would force him to use Rosé but Black would still win. He had grown so strong that h...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:02 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 4338

Re: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?

The scenario is meant to be taken seriously, since it shows that Goku's childish and careless nature can have mastodontic consequences for him and for the entire multiverse, since it was one of the catalysts that caused Zamasu to turn rogue by proving that mortals are dangerous and violent. Bulma li...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 4338

Re: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?

Was Goku a bit more forward with how he wanted to challenge Zamasu to a sparring match? A bit? What an understatement. He was harassing Zamasu, it's pretty obvious that Zamasu didn't want anything to do with him and yet he would keep annoying him like an insistent child. An adult would have realize...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 4338

Re: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?

I might actually say that is part of Goku's character arc. He takes the gods less seriously now in light of the overwhelming power he has achieved. Doesn't make sense though. He was strong as hell in Z though, yet it's not like was touching and harassing Shin and Old Kai when he met them. He was a ...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 4338

Re: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?

Goku acted like an actual retard when he met Zamasu for the first time. He was constantly spouting dumb stuff out of his mouth, he was repeatedly harassing Zamasu despite the Kai's pleas to leave him alone, he couldn't understand that a God must be treated with respect, etc. It wasn't even funny. A...
by SupremeKai25
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It was indeed an astonishing power-up. Honestly, the good guys are very luck that neither Black nor Fused Zamasu knew about the Kaio-ken technique, otherwise they would have been stomped. The Kaio-ken is already deadly on Goku, imagine it applied on an immortal being who can never run out of stamina!
by SupremeKai25
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 4338

Re: DBS Goku: Dumber, Smarter Or The Same Compared To DBZ?

Goku acted like an actual retard when he met Zamasu for the first time. He was constantly spouting dumb stuff out of his mouth, he was repeatedly harassing Zamasu despite the Kai's pleas to leave him alone, he couldn't understand that a God must be treated with respect, etc. It wasn't even funny. Af...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well to assume astral Zamas is stronger than merged Zamas is all assumption Scaling Infinite Zamasu in the first place is pretty much impossible to do without resorting to assumptions, as that final incarnation of Zamasu appeared for... 12 minutes in total? Maybe even less. It was stated that he on...
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It is ridiculous that supposedly Suppressed Jiren is much stronger than Fused Zamasu, that pretty much means that 130 Jiren should be as powerful as the Grand Priest, which is obviously not the case. Either Shin was drunk, or the writers are exaggerated. We are talking about a fused being so powerfu...
by SupremeKai25
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't know the details of Fused Zamasu's return, but since he is the same one from Super, and since he is the same one who survived being sliced in half by Trunks, he should have gotten insane Zenkai boosts. Goku Black alone was getting ridiculously stronger just by getting kicked in the guts, so ...
by SupremeKai25
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29306
Views: 1267294

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Phew, for a moment there I thought that I would be viewed as a stupid power-scaling wannabe. :lol: Anyway, if both of you actually agree with me, then please tell me, why does most of the fandom refer to Astral Zamasu when comparing him with Jiren? Because (yes I will do it) SDBH showed us that Mer...