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- Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:48 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Who will master the ultimate technique of the gods in Ultra Instinct and become the strongest? Goku or Vegeta [Naturally Goku]. Who is suppose to "rival" the "strongest/most feared entity in the universe [Behind Whis]" Beerus? Goku or Vegeta. This is all due to training consiste...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:47 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: If Zamasu came back
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3830
Re: If Zamasu came back
Shenlong restoring a dead person to life feels like an "asspull"? Sorry Bora, back in the ground you go. Uhm, I was obviously referring to Frieza becoming billions or trillions of times stronger in 4 months of training. The manner in which Frieza was forced into the narrative for the nost...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:25 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 1065
- Views: 81150
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
I wonder why Toriyama had such a big soft spot for Shin. Because the Kais in general are a unique race in this setting. Unlike the average, they trade brute strength for technique, finesse, and hax, on top of having intriguing lore as the overseers of the Universe who live in their own special real...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:21 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 9
- Views: 274
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
So Goku is basically the Saviour who "died for our sins"? The Cell saga is so funny, it's not even Dragon Ball. It's Naruto. So edgy, corny, melodramatic, and sanctimonious that saga is. Boy am I glad that Super has nothing in common with the Cell saga! If Goku is supposed to be a true neu...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:53 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: If Zamasu came back
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3830
Re: If Zamasu came back
I mean, Zamasu was granted Invinicibility by a set of Dragon Balls that can allegedly grant any wish imaginable. Are we really supposed to believe that Zamasu is gone-gone? It feels like he could come back at any moment with the excuse "Oh Zeno can't over-ride the Super Dragon Balls after all&q...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:42 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
- Replies: 23
- Views: 811
Re: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
What we are missing right now is an ORIGINAL villain. A newly-arrived villain that we know nothing about, like Black in 2016 and Moro in 2019. That invites speculation and tension. Frieza is neither original nor unique, as everything about him was already answered 30 years ago. I agree with this, t...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:19 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
- Replies: 23
- Views: 811
Re: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
I think it's the lack of stakes in the franchise, + we got an ungodly amount of powerful good guys now, yet no new villains to pose them a threat. Super is currently in a weird state where only Black Frieza is the remaining villain, and even he now spares the good guys instead of killing them, so t...
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:19 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
- Replies: 23
- Views: 811
Re: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
I noticed in other sites some people are quiting Dragon Ball. Basically they are leaving the forum and no longer interested Dragon Ball anymore. That's been happening since 2019, after the Super Anime and Broly Movie ended. Why are we dancing around the obvious truth? Love it or hate it, the Super ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:45 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
"From Beast level to SSJ level." Lol Broly was never on Beast Gohan's level. Broly didn't face Gohan at full power but with "some gas left in the tank." Considering that the process of Gohan using the maximum amount of power that he can use before going Berserk with Beast seems ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:27 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
And yet, in the Tournament of Power, Vegeta sacrifices himself for Goku, recognizing Goku as the only one who can defeat Jiren and "trenspass into the domain of the Gods". Yes, because Goku's upbringing and training leads him to be better attuned to achieve and master UI, Vegeta and other...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:28 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Give Freeza the same half-century training with several gods Goku got and he'd have to fuse with Beerus to beat him. Actually, No, because there is no evidence that Frieza has limitless potential, meanwhile it is indeed stated multiple times that the Saiyans have infinite potential. Where was that ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Give Freeza the same half-century training with several gods Goku got and he'd have to fuse with Beerus to beat him. Actually, No, because there is no evidence that Frieza has limitless potential, meanwhile it is indeed stated multiple times that the Saiyans have infinite potential. It is more like...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:09 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
We've reached the point where we need to explicitly explain to people that being the MC and ending up as the strongest in no way means there cannot be somebody else with far greater potential, even though the show goes out of its way to say "you've trained 40 years, I've trained 4 months, and ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:53 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Goku has been training his whole life and he's still weaker than Freeza. Both times they fought Goku only won because of a miracle (A legendary transformation nobody had seen in 1,000 years and then Freeza's own hubris). Hot take, but I actually think Goku isn't gifted and has average potential for...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:12 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Goku has been training his whole life and he's still weaker than Freeza. Both times they fought Goku only won because of a miracle (A legendary transformation nobody had seen in 1,000 years and then Freeza's own hubris). Hot take, but I actually think Goku isn't gifted and has average potential for...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:18 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 1065
- Views: 81150
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
I wasn’t really saying that Daima “is” a remake to GT. You’re right that that’s probably not the intention, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was a comparison made by people producing the anime. It certainly will be one by the people who are watching it. I absolutely do think the absence of Whis ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:24 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927180
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Not that this needs explaining, but "gas left in the tank" is so vague it can mean anywhere from 20% to 90% stamina remaining. Goku asked a general question that was answered in the affirmative, and there's not a single thing implying that Gohan was particularly exhausted. It was a pretty...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:26 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 1065
- Views: 81150
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
As far as I can see, there is no evidence that Daima doesn't fall within the Super timeline. The absence of Beerus and Whis isn't evidence. Regardless, Daima is still a product of the Revival/Modern era, therefore it will share story beats with Super. I don't see this series having anything in commo...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:06 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 267
- Views: 15251
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
What I find very interesting is the people who don't want Super to exist (a very selfish position), but are simultaneously fine with GT existing. How is it even possible? How is it possible to hate Super with such passion, but don't hate GT in the same way? It's not like GT's writing, art/animation,...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:48 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
- Replies: 4635
- Views: 596203
Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Just re-read MUI Goku vs Moro. In terms of narrative substance it's easily one of the worst fights in the history of the franchise. Goku acts so insanely, blindingly stupid it actually hurts to read, he spends 20 pages not killing Moro... for no real reason at all and almost threw the whole fight a...