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by PFM18
Sun May 12, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Because in Heroes, MUI Goku was portrayed as stronger than both Post-ToP SSB Vegito & SSJ4 Xeno Vegito. It has never been stated or shown otherwise in any other media. Heroes is irrelevant to the main series. The scaling is mostly the same as far as transformations go. So its a valid argument. ...
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

https://twitter.com/animetv_jp/status/1126487035726979073 Is there a way we can approve this account's credibility? Toei just might be stupid enough to announce it at the end of May alongside a teaser trailer. That would leave like, what 5-6 weeks to hype it up before it airs in early July? Errm no...
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

IntangibleFancy wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 4:23 pm https://twitter.com/animetv_jp/status/1 ... 5726979073

Is there a way we can approve this account's credibility?
Toei just might be stupid enough to announce it at the end of May alongside a teaser trailer. That would leave like, what 5-6 weeks to hype it up before it airs in early July?
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Why Ultra Instinct is an exception though? Is this an official explanation or you came up with it yourself? Because in Heroes, MUI Goku was portrayed as stronger than both Post-ToP SSB Vegito & SSJ4 Xeno Vegito. It has never been stated or shown otherwise in any other media. Heroes is irrelevan...
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 21884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

Hugo Boss wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 12:49 pm Battle of Gods pretty much ended this debate. After checking Goku, Beerus concluded he couldn’t beat Freeza without Super Saiyan. And none rectified him, so there is no reason to doubt his statement.
Or at least, it SHOULD have ended this debate.
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 2:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I guess why not. 1. Zenos 2. Grand Priest 3. Angels 4. SSB Gogeta [Broly] 5. MUI Goku 6. FPSSJ Broly / Beerus / SSB Vegetto [Zamasu] / Jiren 7. Other GoDs 8. UIO Goku 9. Merged Zamasu 10. SSBKKx20 Goku / SSBE Vegeta 11. GoD Toppo 12. SSJ2 Kefla 13. True Golden Frieza 14. SSR Black 15. Hit 16. SSI T...
by PFM18
Sat May 11, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

With the exception of Jiren and Ultra Instinct Goku which I'd put above Broly and Gogeta No, we have six sources that state/imply in some capacity that Broly>Jiren. Seven if you include those Wafer Z cards or whatever they are called. Dyspo should be up there, above Frieza with his Maximum Speed Mo...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

The 14th is less than a week from now. What do we do if nothing happens? Cry. Like a lot. But I only speak for myself How they can be wrong? when 13-15 + couple of VA told them? How can you create a context that never fucking exist? explain that... that bit high numbers right there, they didn't com...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

Unfortunately, I can't enjoy Super Dragon Ball Heroes because it's a trash and not a real series just a commercial with 2d animation for cards. Ditto. I watched the last couple episodes just because I heard Vegeta was getting some spotlight. Forgot that it was just a promotional anime and got my ho...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've made a list of the top 25 strongest characters in Super since the DBS Broly film. Here's what I got: 1. Zeno 2. The Grand Priest 3. The 12 Angels 4. MUI Goku 5. Awakened Jiren 6. Current SSB Fusion 7. Full Power Broly 8. The 12 Hakaishin 9. SSBE Vegeta 10. GoD Toppo 11. SSJ2 Kefla 12. Infinite...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

The 14th is less than a week from now. What do we do if nothing happens? Cry. Like a lot. But I only speak for myself At this point July seems very unlikely. There's no way they are going to start marketing the new series this late in the game. I hope I'm wrong but I highly doubt that Toei is that ...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

At this point July seems very unlikely. There's no way they are going to start marketing the new series this late in the game. I hope I'm wrong but I highly doubt that Toei is that incompetent at marketing. Considering all of the available information, I am reluctantly starting to believe Toei when ...
by PFM18
Thu May 09, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1883
Views: 418755

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - Announcement & Discussion Thread

There was no announcement about Super on Goku day. The big announcement was apparently about the "Dragon Ball Heroes Grand Tour." That was the thing that they were hyping up to come on Goku day it seems, not Super. I mean, I guess there could still be an announcement coming later in Goku d...
by PFM18
Wed May 08, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37448
Views: 3400772

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

p-hyvo wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 6:34 pm Super shenron is the red or the evil one? Anyway zamasu
....Neither. It's the enormous golden one.
by PFM18
Tue May 07, 2019 1:05 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14585
Views: 1509533

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Me predicting the arc would make it predictable, yes? No, it wouldn't. If a particular person predicts it, then it does not make it predictable. Wait what? I was on your side since I thought that other person didnt really predict it, but if one person indeed predicted it, it WAS predictable. At lea...
by PFM18
Tue May 07, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: When Will We Ever Get Out of the Boo Fight - End of Z Rift?!
Replies: 70
Views: 17062

Re: When Will We Ever Get Out of the Boo Fight - End of Z Rift?!

Oob can easily be made to work. 1.) say he’s got power on par with pure Boo without any training whatsoever 2.) Goku remembers how strong Freeza , Broly and Gohan got in such a quick time due to “potential” 3.) Goku trains him for a month and Oob comes stronger than jiren and based on previous prec...
by PFM18
Mon May 06, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828613

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

wolflonnie wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 6:33 pm There were tactics in DBS. Heck even some in DBZ.
Uhh....are you sure? As far as tactics/strategy, nuance, and interesting abilities go, DBZ fights were as simple as it gets. The ONLY factor in a fight was power.
by PFM18
Mon May 06, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14585
Views: 1509533

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Dbzfan94 wrote:Me predicting the arc would make it predictable, yes?
No, it wouldn't. If a particular person predicts it, then it does not make it predictable.
by PFM18
Sat May 04, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14585
Views: 1509533

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

We’ve been through this before. I’m telling you, I predicted a lot of the things that happen. It may have been unpredictable to you but you’re not everyone. Either way, my feelings about the arc aside it’s not a bad thing that I knew things would happen ahead of time. You seemingly take it as a per...
by PFM18
Fri May 03, 2019 1:05 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14585
Views: 1509533

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I did. Most of the “surprises” I could tell from a mile away. I highly doubt it. But even if you did, people are still looking at the predictability in hindsight. It was very much seen as unpredictable when it was first airing. I never saw anybody actually predict much of anything about the arc. We...