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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:21 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: SS3 Vegeta
- Replies: 13
- Views: 932
Re: SS3 Vegeta
Only Future Trunks in the manga has taken SSJ2 to the next level, something no one else has done. Vegeta hasn't done it, he only got a temporary power boost from rage, which isn't permanent. Anyone can get a powerboost when they get rage, no matter what form they are in, unless it is UI. Nah, Veget...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:05 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: SS3 Vegeta
- Replies: 13
- Views: 932
Re: SS3 Vegeta
I never understood the desire to see SS3 Vegeta. He'd look awful, that mane doesn't work with his design, not with that huge forehead and short body. A muscular midget with a giant head and long hair. Besides, it's a flawed form, it's too taxating on the body, it has a timer basically and it's not t...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:17 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 9
- Views: 216
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Gohan was more reliable than Goku because, unlike Goku, he won't spare villains or give them time to be at their fullest for the sake of having a challenge. Also, Gohan did learn from toying around with Cell to never give evils such as Cell the chance to cause a major disaster again, something Goku...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:04 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)
- Replies: 2577
- Views: 518247
Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)
Crazy that everybody came back, except for Baby. Even Baby's creator came back.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:00 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
This is mental, potential and being the strongest are not married, thay are not exclusive like at all. You can have 87/100 potential, and still lose to a 90/90 potential, when it comes to beating the arc and coming up on top of others, what matters is how strong you are NOW, not how strong you might...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:06 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
I can't believe this salad of concepts you've prepared for dinner... mixing bold statements with typical in-character speech + a handful of headcanon for spice... I'm literally looking at the camera Jim Halpert-style right now. I truly hope, for your own understanding of how fiction works, you are j...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:12 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
We've reached the point where we need to explicitly explain to people that being the MC and ending up as the strongest in no way means there cannot be somebody else with far greater potential, even though the show goes out of its way to say "you've trained 40 years, I've trained 4 months, and ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
We've reached the point where we need to explicitly explain to people that being the MC and ending up as the strongest in no way means there cannot be somebody else with far greater potential, even though the show goes out of its way to say "you've trained 40 years, I've trained 4 months, and I...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:16 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
That's an odd take, it took Goku decades to reach SSB, Freeza only needed 4 months. Goku even with like a 30 year advantage over Freeza is still behind. If Freeza's 10 year workout started at the same time Goku’s did, he would've been Black Freeza by the time Raditz arrived, and 20 years later who k...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:25 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Fair enough, Broly's face could be interpreted as "what are they even trying to do... ?"
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:20 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37484
- Views: 3473685
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
1. Base Gogeta vs Ikari Broly 2. End of Saiyan arc Gohan vs Saiyan arc Piccolo 3. ToP Piccolo vs Super Janemba 4. LB Jiren vs Cell Max (Jiren is aware of his head weakness) 1) SSB Goku had Broly already under control, Gogeta seems to be as capable as Goku or Vegeta at their mightiest. He has it cov...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:41 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
What do you guys make of Broly vs Goten and Trunks? Everything happened off-screen but that one panel has SS Broly not that confortable against the base teenagers. Their teamwork can't be that good, SS Gohan was not having that much trouble against the SS heroes, so does that mean SS Broly's power d...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:29 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 267
- Views: 14971
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Julie has a point, once you get the necessity genie out of the bottle everything is fair game. I, for one, wonder if there was a need for Goku's heart to fail him, for time travel, for Yamcha to be turned into a cheater just because, for Bulma to crap all over her friends by dating their killer... I...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:45 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 805
Re: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?
There's no way to tell if he grew steadily, if he grew this strong at the beginning of his life, or mostly at the end or on Earth. He is roughly Vegeta's age, and assuming he was introduced with a power that ranges from Raditz to KK Goku, this is how strong I think he'd be in each arc in his base, w...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:44 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
A gag moment where Beerus sneezes is supposed to corroborrate Goku's claim? :lol: From a storytelling standpoint, Goku guessing that Broly might be stronger than Beerus is the given motivation for Goku visiting Broly on Planet Vampa and giving him food supplies so that he doesn't die of hunger/thir...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:12 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Story-telling doesn't work like that. I won't address this because Mr. Baggins did it better than I ever would. Toriyama didn't write that Broly is stronger than Beerus. He wrote that Goku thinks that Broly is stronger than Beerus. There is a massive difference. Again, by no means does a character'...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:54 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39971
- Views: 3922437
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Should be taken into account that Goku and Beerus don't exist, it was Toriyama who said those words about Broly, through Goku, and Toriyama knew how strong he wanted Beerus to be. Just like he was the one saying, not Vegeta(because he also doesn't exist), that hybrids are stronger than saiyans... so...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball influences in Western products
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1974
Re: Dragon Ball influences in Western products
The similarity between the aforementioned Simpsons episode and the scene in Dragon Ball Z ends at the bullet being thrown back. I highly doubt the writers and storyboard artist at The Simpsons got it from DBZ. The scenes and execution are completely different. https://youtu.be/YWDUEVL0PMI?si=8hRDTw...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 805
Re: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?
Nice thread. We know Broly by the time he meets the gang will cap at post-Buu arc SS(one can go nuts trying to see how strong that actually is), and also that he'll stagnate for years before that. I don't think Broly needs to be in the millions by the time he is 3, if Vegeta was already above the Ki...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:48 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37484
- Views: 3473685
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
1. Goku (Beginning of DB) vs Beelzebub (Sand Land) 2. How would Beelzebub fare in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai? 3. Let's say Zarbon was around to do Tagoma's training instead, who is the strongest character he'd be able to defeat in his monster form? 4. Moro arc 17 fuses with Hell Fighter 17 to becom...