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by Koitsukai
Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
Replies: 16
Views: 2387

Re: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo

Toriyama stated that Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku and Vegeta. He said this in regards to the movie. What does on par mean here? Well Orange Piccolo can’t be on par with UI Goku because the manga just showed that’s where Gohan Beast is. Anime logic well Goku doesn’t have complete access to UI ...
by Koitsukai
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:48 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Losing interest in Dragon Ball
Replies: 23
Views: 759

Re: Losing interest in Dragon Ball

I might lose interest in the newer content, like it'll probably happen if DBS doesn't regain its footing or whatever follows, or if Heroes ends up being the last man standing, but I'll never stop going back to the original material. Maybe not as often, maybe not participating on forums, but it will ...
by Koitsukai
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How did Grandpa Gohan survived Goku's Great Ape form for first time?
Replies: 5
Views: 137

Re: How did Grandpa Gohan survived Goku's Great Ape form for first time?

If Goku had a PL of 2 when he was born, and a 10 when the show starts, then he might've been at 3 o 4 when he transformed for the first time, putting him around 30 or 40PL. We know Roshi is way above that, and Grampa Gohan was able to trade blows with Goku post-RRA arc, a 40PL Ohzaru should be a pie...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: SS3 Vegeta
Replies: 14
Views: 977

Re: SS3 Vegeta

Only Future Trunks in the manga has taken SSJ2 to the next level, something no one else has done. Vegeta hasn't done it, he only got a temporary power boost from rage, which isn't permanent. Anyone can get a powerboost when they get rage, no matter what form they are in, unless it is UI. Nah, Veget...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: SS3 Vegeta
Replies: 14
Views: 977

Re: SS3 Vegeta

I never understood the desire to see SS3 Vegeta. He'd look awful, that mane doesn't work with his design, not with that huge forehead and short body. A muscular midget with a giant head and long hair. Besides, it's a flawed form, it's too taxating on the body, it has a timer basically and it's not t...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 9
Views: 257

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

Gohan was more reliable than Goku because, unlike Goku, he won't spare villains or give them time to be at their fullest for the sake of having a challenge. Also, Gohan did learn from toying around with Cell to never give evils such as Cell the chance to cause a major disaster again, something Goku...
by Koitsukai
Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)
Replies: 2577
Views: 518519

Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)

Crazy that everybody came back, except for Baby. Even Baby's creator came back.
by Koitsukai
Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This is mental, potential and being the strongest are not married, thay are not exclusive like at all. You can have 87/100 potential, and still lose to a 90/90 potential, when it comes to beating the arc and coming up on top of others, what matters is how strong you are NOW, not how strong you might...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I can't believe this salad of concepts you've prepared for dinner... mixing bold statements with typical in-character speech + a handful of headcanon for spice... I'm literally looking at the camera Jim Halpert-style right now. I truly hope, for your own understanding of how fiction works, you are j...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We've reached the point where we need to explicitly explain to people that being the MC and ending up as the strongest in no way means there cannot be somebody else with far greater potential, even though the show goes out of its way to say "you've trained 40 years, I've trained 4 months, and ...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We've reached the point where we need to explicitly explain to people that being the MC and ending up as the strongest in no way means there cannot be somebody else with far greater potential, even though the show goes out of its way to say "you've trained 40 years, I've trained 4 months, and I...
by Koitsukai
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That's an odd take, it took Goku decades to reach SSB, Freeza only needed 4 months. Goku even with like a 30 year advantage over Freeza is still behind. If Freeza's 10 year workout started at the same time Goku’s did, he would've been Black Freeza by the time Raditz arrived, and 20 years later who k...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fair enough, Broly's face could be interpreted as "what are they even trying to do... ?"
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3474725

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Base Gogeta vs Ikari Broly 2. End of Saiyan arc Gohan vs Saiyan arc Piccolo 3. ToP Piccolo vs Super Janemba 4. LB Jiren vs Cell Max (Jiren is aware of his head weakness) 1) SSB Goku had Broly already under control, Gogeta seems to be as capable as Goku or Vegeta at their mightiest. He has it cov...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What do you guys make of Broly vs Goten and Trunks? Everything happened off-screen but that one panel has SS Broly not that confortable against the base teenagers. Their teamwork can't be that good, SS Gohan was not having that much trouble against the SS heroes, so does that mean SS Broly's power d...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 267
Views: 15006

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Julie has a point, once you get the necessity genie out of the bottle everything is fair game. I, for one, wonder if there was a need for Goku's heart to fail him, for time travel, for Yamcha to be turned into a cheater just because, for Bulma to crap all over her friends by dating their killer... I...
by Koitsukai
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?
Replies: 5
Views: 807

Re: How strong do you think Broly was as a kid?

There's no way to tell if he grew steadily, if he grew this strong at the beginning of his life, or mostly at the end or on Earth. He is roughly Vegeta's age, and assuming he was introduced with a power that ranges from Raditz to KK Goku, this is how strong I think he'd be in each arc in his base, w...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

A gag moment where Beerus sneezes is supposed to corroborrate Goku's claim? :lol: From a storytelling standpoint, Goku guessing that Broly might be stronger than Beerus is the given motivation for Goku visiting Broly on Planet Vampa and giving him food supplies so that he doesn't die of hunger/thir...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Story-telling doesn't work like that. I won't address this because Mr. Baggins did it better than I ever would. Toriyama didn't write that Broly is stronger than Beerus. He wrote that Goku thinks that Broly is stronger than Beerus. There is a massive difference. Again, by no means does a character'...
by Koitsukai
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923733

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Should be taken into account that Goku and Beerus don't exist, it was Toriyama who said those words about Broly, through Goku, and Toriyama knew how strong he wanted Beerus to be. Just like he was the one saying, not Vegeta(because he also doesn't exist), that hybrids are stronger than saiyans... so...