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by Jmass97
Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 314
Views: 26870

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread

Big oof in the Freeza reveal. Modern Dragon Ball seems to now be suffering immensely in quality. With RoF - ToP, some of the issues seemed relatively minor in that it a small rewrite could've fixed the issues but ever since Broly, the insistence on "Beerus's power >> Goku's newest form", ...
by Jmass97
Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 566835

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Gohan Blanco is dead! It's Gohan Plata!!! Novel confirms it. Hair is silver and not white; Proof? Do you have a link to the page or anything? I ask because I’d prefer his hair to actually be white. In the film it appears white but the shading/effects make it appear more gray/silver. His eyebrows ar...
by Jmass97
Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How strong is Jiren compared to Beerus?
Replies: 232
Views: 42793

Re: How strong is Jiren compared to Beerus?

It's pretty much confirmed by Goku that Granola is stronger than the both of them, hence his "I can't believe Granola has been battling the both of us" comment. SSJBE Vegeta's performance against Granola certainly does reinforce the fact that Vegeta is much stronger than Broly (who is muc...
by Jmass97
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But Vegeta didn't surpass Goku against Moro, that's my point. He got a better showing because of FSF but characters repeatedly make the point that his physical strength hadn't improved and UIS Goku was implied to be stronger. In a one-on-one fight between the two, UIS Goku would have won since FSF ...
by Jmass97
Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5674647

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Lets just hope that this form never makes it into the anime, like why does Toyo feel the need to do another transformation?? Like what happens to blue now? He should have just stuck with the Blue form..... or if anything give him Ultra Instinct since its an already established form. Why clutter the...
by Jmass97
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5674647

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Lets just hope that this form never makes it into the anime, like why does Toyo feel the need to do another transformation?? Like what happens to blue now? He should have just stuck with the Blue form..... or if anything give him Ultra Instinct since its an already established form. Why clutter the...
by Jmass97
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5674647

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Why is everyone assuming Goku let his guard down and dropped out of UI? From the Spoilers it just looks like Goku beat him in UI and then the real Granolah One tapped him and knocked him into base. Am I missing something? This. This seems to be the case and I hope it is. People love jumping the gun...
by Jmass97
Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5674647

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Jiren The Alpha wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:35 pm I love how the fans don't get why Frieza's form is golden, even tho he said it in the movie. The fans is at bad at remembering as Toriyama somtimes, at least Toriyama has the excuse that he is getting older.
This x10 over
by Jmass97
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:31 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro considers all energy sources as meals, it was like that with Esca in Namek and it was like that with the Z Fighters on Earth. He saying that Vegeta would be his best meal is a testament that he has the greatest energy Moro has ever encountered. He's not talking about energies that he ate (beca...
by Jmass97
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I dunno, Piccolo just said it's hard to tell. But after all that training, he MUST have gotten stronger. Heck, his blue form was stated to be "way stronger than last time I saw it". Maybe the gains from said training don't apply to Omen/UI because it's technically a technique and not a ge...
by Jmass97
Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought
Replies: 15
Views: 2754

Re: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought

Why exactly would Base Gogeta be automatically stronger than SSJBE? We saw that Gogeta was stronger than ordinary SSJB but nothing in the film indicated that he was comparable to or had surpassed SSJBE. Base Gogeta merely dodged all of Broly's attacks and didn't mount an offensive until going SSJ, ...
by Jmass97
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought
Replies: 15
Views: 2754

Re: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought

[...] I remembered that a fusion warriors base is higher than each fusee’s strongest transformation [...] Did I miss something? As far as I remember fusions function as AxB. I mean yeah that’s what the Daiz says and it’s not going against what’s been shown multiple times. It’s been said that Vegito...
by Jmass97
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought
Replies: 15
Views: 2754

Re: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought

There is no such thing as "Blue Evolution", etc. in Toriyama's continuation. Gogeta is SSGSS and just SSGSS. I understand the whole Toriyama’a continuation thing and it wasn’t in the movies script however, if we’re adding it to the lore and canonicity of both mediums, he writes and approv...
by Jmass97
Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought
Replies: 15
Views: 2754

I Just Realized that Gogeta Is Far Stronger than Previously Thought

I was doing my own scaling and originally had Gogeta above Jiren and Broly, having his base form at a low ball be at or slightly higher than ssj blue Goku and Vegeta individually. Then I remembered that a fusion warriors base is higher than each fusee’s strongest transformation and in technicality t...
by Jmass97
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's hard to tell because he's unable to sense UI Goku's ki... So he can't make an accurate comparison. I didn’t forget it. It’s just that reading Goku’s ki is not the only way to tell if Goku is stronger. Piccolo can read Jiren’s and Moro’s ki, so he could tell by comparing how Goku fought each on...
by Jmass97
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Manga UI Omen Goku is very impressive. While Moro was very unimpressive
Replies: 23
Views: 3570

Re: Manga UI Omen Goku is very impressive. While Moro was very unimpressive

Moro hasn't exhibited the most serviceably unorthodox of magical techniques. Much of them can be summed up as ranged energy absorption, telekinesis, a Zanzoken esque illusion, paralysis/immobility (doesn't completely restrain the victim), and fulminous/flame like projectiles. It's nothing we haven'...
by Jmass97
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We’ll have to wait until next chapter. If Goku can at least hold his own for a short while against a powered up Moro who has transcended the Gods then that would at least put current UI Omen as relative to MUI from the TOP. Really? Because in this very chapter Piccolo says it’s hard to tell if Goku...
by Jmass97
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Manga UI Omen Goku is very impressive. While Moro was very unimpressive
Replies: 23
Views: 3570

Re: Manga UI Omen Goku is very impressive. While Moro was very unimpressive

Moro hasn't exhibited the most serviceably unorthodox of magical techniques. Much of them can be summed up as ranged energy absorption, telekinesis, a Zanzoken esque illusion, paralysis/immobility (doesn't completely restrain the victim), and fulminous/flame like projectiles. It's nothing we haven'...
by Jmass97
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5674647

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Really great action chapter. High speed and high energy with a lot of dynamic angles. Omen is put on display with all of Goku's acrobatic moves. I especially enjoyed the string where Moro pulls Goku toward him, Goku fires back with shockwaves, and then they meet in an intense clash with great expre...
by Jmass97
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39970
Views: 3913417

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Is this something you think or something that was actually told in the chapter? It’s common sense. Since then, Goku trained, fought against Broly, trained again, fought against (and lost) to Moro (twice). Trained himself to the point of near death over and over again with an Angel in a time chamber...