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- Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:28 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Does El Manga Legendario give a good placement for...
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Does El Manga Legendario give a good placement for...
Does El Manga Legendario give the placement that hadn't been made clear in the manga, that is [pre nail merge] Piccolo, by saying Nail increased his power by a factor of 5x? If Piccolo post merge was at least > 1,000,000, with most people's estimations (accounting he was > FP 2nd form Freeza, who ha...
- Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:57 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Who's to say Goku was at FP when Beerus said that? Who's to say 18 was at FP when fighting Mighty Mask? Who's to say Vegeta wasn't thinking of using SSJ in bursts? Who's to say Beerus could get a read on Goku's FP when he was examining him? Who's to say Beerus wasn't goading Goku to transform when t...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:16 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
At the end of day, this discussion is entirely speculative. I’m just presenting possible solutions that Saiyans might figure out during a moment of need, I’m not suggesting they should think exactly as I said to prove my point, nor did I suggest every Saiyan would be able to concoct that move. It’s...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:10 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Yes, but if it's something they think about amidst the battle, then it wouldn't be relevant to the assessment they made then, of SSJ not being necessary and not damaging their odds when Gohan wants to win and he'a also aware of Vegeta's goals. Fair enough. However, while one may interpret the initi...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
But wouldn't a self thought, like thinking to themselves, be maybe a way to employ this strategy without discussing it? Perhaps you mean from the perspective of the writer, but if there's an implication there that SSJ wasn't seen as needed by them, wouldn't it be valid enough for the author to show...
- Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:41 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: How did Cell know Geros Shutdown remote was destroyed?
- Replies: 4
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Re: How did Cell know Geros Shutdown remote was destroyed?
Well, he stated the androids from his time were defeated by Trunks, somehow. Maybe he associated that with the remote control... As for why he assumed that no longer existed, I don't know. I'd imagine he thought Trunks would get the control from Gero's lab, that in his timeline he knew somehow it wa...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:36 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
- Replies: 4635
- Views: 595288
Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption(s)…has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…” Kibitoshin talking about the process of Boo absorbing the Kaioshins until being tamed. It's w...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:01 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Edit: Hugo Boss Vegeta was shown to be wrong, but by something he couldn't predict -- Goku's powers. That's not a proper rebuttal to this, as he knows 18's powers. One he saw Goku's power vs Yakon, he admitted the gap between them was still there... He isn't blind to reason, come on now. Besides, i...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:58 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Of course it changes the implications, for they IMPLY something, they aren't certainties, is as easily as assuming Vegeta was being overconfident, and that 18 was holding back enough for the NEW REVELATION TO FIT THE NARRATIVE. It's not changing who beat Cell or how Krilin died, it's changing scene...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:28 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
Anime and manga have a long history of productions aimed at Otaku containing women that get to fight, so it would hardly be an issue for a Dragon Ball series to do the same. I don’t think a foreign market is the issue with why Dragon Ball has such bad writing for women—the issue lies in the culture...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:23 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
many western movies were successful there like Avatar, Spider-Man, showing it has still a big potential for revenue. That may imply resonating to what they would or wouldn't restrict but if you want to speak of profit and economics alone like you had said before, those are reasons the overseas film...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:37 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
I think you're misunderstanding as I'm not defending it as a good thing, I said it's more complex and that you were oversimplifying by just saying they shot their own foot, and the 2016 article shows the issue has been going for a while and it's not only ever since 2020, which may have gotten more ...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:16 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
I can ignore that one because it's so in-character for Vegeta to think he has no rivals, and also because the BoG comment of an unbiased character such as Beerus happens later than Vegeta's, so it has more relevance because it acts as a power conclusion given by the author. The sky is clear at 9AM,...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:34 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
But it's not simply scaring off international investors: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/film-industry-promotion-law-2016/ It's a matter of what they perceive to enrich Chinese own culture and masses, protect the core of their beliefs and strengthen the domestic film industry like I've pointed...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:25 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
I feel that's a complex issue that can't be oversimplified like this. When it comes to scaring-off international investors, it is that simple. Regardless of what the goal was - the basic reality of free economy market, which China did shift to in the 80s despite remaining authoritarian politically,...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:45 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
It's much easier to rationalize whatever the characters might have said or done than to discard a YOU CANT BEAT x LIKE THIS said by the author through a character, time after those characters said whatever. Level of restraint is unclear, so there's no point in overscrutinizing it. If the kids are b...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:24 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
- Replies: 271
- Views: 11316
Re: Inclusivity towards women in Dragon Ball?
True, but it also depends on how they there outweigh pros and cons. It damages China's image to an extent and may make their population less acceptable or up to par to different cultures and practices, which would be very good and in terms of revenue too, but the government there also has specifics...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:21 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
I'm still surprised people thinking these fictional characters have the agency to say bullshit just for the sake of a joke. They are puppets that say whatever the puppeteer wants them to say. If the line is present, it means that's the author right there saying it. Whether you like or agree with wh...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:59 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Goku was directly addressing Freeza there. It'd make more sense for him to be more willing to correct Freeza with their personal grudge than to Beerus, who would see his power anyway. Besides, there's the issue of Goku being > Gotenks in the movie... It doesn't really make sense for base Gotenks to ...
- Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:02 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
- Replies: 12581
- Views: 1629957
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Even if 18 was holding back, which may be possible as she doesn't lose her cool when she sees them transform in SSJ and thus increase their power (she doesn't know the boost but knows it's a power up), was it by much? Likely not... Trunks would fire a blast that was above her, to win by KO, but not ...