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by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

I'd have to disagree that it has anything to do with that. In EoZ, the "poison" that Toriyama talks about is at its absolute height. People of the #NotMyGoku variety will no doubt deny this, but I think it's 100% the case that if those final two chapters were never written in 1995 and ins...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

While it did seem to be a reaction of popular view of Goku, it also seems Toriyama likes to make his worse traits even worse over time. All the way back in the original manga, we had Goku fighting opponents who casually outclassed him in Tao Pai Pai and old king Piccolo, and Goku was only stressed ...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

LoganForkHands73 and TKA just to say you've written some very good posts over the course of this thread. I've really enjoyed them. A small question: except Cell, funnily enough Why do you think Cell was written as an exception to this general trend? It's something I wondered about a bit myself. Tha...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

It depends. There are some single-minded obsessions we romanticize to a strong degree in the Western world, and even reward. An example is the whole "hustle culture grindset mindset" stuff. Acquiring wealth and working tirelessly to it is considered a virtue, which goes back to Catholicis...
by LoganForkHands73
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

To expand on my above points (had to be swift with my last reply), I've been thinking about what exactly discomforts people, myself included, about the low value Goku places on his friends and family. The ones who can't fight well, anyway. I say "discomfort" because I've started to think t...
by LoganForkHands73
Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

Nice meme. Now try reading what I said. Goku isn't Swamp Thing written by Alan Moore. He's not going to peer off into the moon and give soliloquys about his mental state or the human condition. In lieu of going "I long for a partner I can train with and fight for the rest of my days," he ...
by LoganForkHands73
Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

This isn't the first time that the fanbase has twisted itself into knots trying to rationalise Goku's recurring acts of stupidity and callousness as some kind of Ultra Big Brain 4D Chess Lost-in-Translation Homophone Joke Only the Japanese Would Fully Appreciate. Yet it's been proven time and again ...
by LoganForkHands73
Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 107
Views: 7778

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

I think the best thing about this chapter is the strong sense of connection to Toyotaro through the page. It feels like the whole world is currently united in grief at Toriyama's passing and everyone is processing how they feel and what this news will mean for the future. For Toyotaro, I can't imagi...
by LoganForkHands73
Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 186
Views: 8020

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

I'm sure Goku probably thought the afterlife would be more exciting thanit ultimately was(although if we’re going by the anime continuity, then it was exciting) I suppose the afterlife being more exciting in the anime ties into Toei's more upstanding characterisation for Goku. There, the idea that ...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836686

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Trying to avoid spoilers, but if what I'm glimpsing is true, it doesn't mean Ultra Ego will be retconned out. Anyone hoping for that will be disappointed. The last few chapters have basically been Toyotaro assuring us, "I haven't forgotten all these plot points, let me just get round to them.&...
by LoganForkHands73
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Who designed the Trio de Dangers?
Replies: 1
Views: 271

Re: Who designed the Trio de Dangers?

It's possible that it was Toyotaro, as he designed the God of Destruction Liquiir, who has similar canine features to the Trio. However, the fact that the Trio don't play a particularly large role in the manga might suggest otherwise. You can tell certain themes and patterns among the Tournament of ...
by LoganForkHands73
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:49 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 186
Views: 8020

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

My initial reading of Goku choosing to stay dead was that he was going to stay away from the earth regardless and so he tells them not to waste their time wishing him back. It was a conscious choice on his part to stay away because he felt he was a bad influence. Thats what I understood from the en...
by LoganForkHands73
Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836686

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

An inevitability of power-creep. It was a problem in DBZ too. Remember how it took like 100 episodes for Frieza to be defeated on Namek? Android 18 would finger-flick him in a few seconds. When you put it that way, the Androids are like the great equalizers in the power hierarchy. No matter how man...
by LoganForkHands73
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 186
Views: 8020

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Honestly, I have NEVER seen a single person complain about Spiderman canon or argue "this isn't written by Stan Lee" when it comes to criticizing Sam Raimi's films, or anything of the sort They do it's just the canon is the comics that aren't limited to a single writer (like Kunzait said ...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 13253

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

You seem to have missed the point I was trying to make, so I'll use your post as an example. To *YOU* the manga is the "official canon" To *SOMEONE ELSE* the "official canon" would be anything Toriyama worked on To *SOMEONE ELSE ELSE* the "official canon" would be what...
by LoganForkHands73
Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 345
Views: 18367

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

I’ve taken a day to digest the incredibly unexpected news. For a “celebrity death” it hit me extremely hard. I don’t have much more to add beyond what has already been said. Through his amazing work, Toriyama’s name still has a level of fame and influence few individuals would ever be able to attain...
by LoganForkHands73
Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5588446

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Cover of the 23rd volume of the Dragon Ball Super manga https://twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1765337974655402303?t=_aa_lDJnJ6iiUNL0nOvBqg&s=19 He's reusing the same exact Spider-Man pose he used for his Cooler drawing... This guy never ceases to amaze me. https://www.geekmi.news/export/sites/deba...
by LoganForkHands73
Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:34 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 831
Views: 78723

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

As a fan of more competitive games, I do think some 'magic' is lost whenever a game becomes too competitively-driven. I'm far from the first person to make observations on casual vs. competitive mindsets, but let's face it, after a while people just want to play to win, not just for fun or affection...
by LoganForkHands73
Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back
Replies: 39
Views: 2275

Re: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back

That's why only a power source as great as the Super Dragon Balls could restore them to life, otherwise it would be impossible. How come the Grand Priest is also able to do it (as he did to Merus)? I don't think there was any implication that Merus's entire soul was erased when he broke the rules, ...
by LoganForkHands73
Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back
Replies: 39
Views: 2275

Re: If Toriyama decided to bring Zamasu back

Perhaps everything that gets erased by the Gods and Zeno don't actually get erased? Just get sent to it's own dimension. This. I have read this theory several times back when the ToP arc was airing, that maybe the erased contestants were not actually killed or "erased", but simply sent to...