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- Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:04 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Not that this needs explaining, but "gas left in the tank" is so vague it can mean anywhere from 20% to 90% stamina remaining. Goku asked a general question that was answered in the affirmative, and there's not a single thing implying that Gohan was particularly exhausted. It was a pretty ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:21 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: New Sand Land project announced
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Re: New Sand Land project announced
Binged the first seven episodes today and had a blast. I'm not quite sure how to feel about this new story arc so far, but the interactions between Beelzebub and Muniel are a lot of fun.
I'm thinking I'll do a write-up about the show at some point after it's over.
I'm thinking I'll do a write-up about the show at some point after it's over.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:19 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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It's worth noting that the full color edition also has used a dull gray-blue and yellow for the base Saiyans' auras, though yellow is the one they use most frequently. It's not perfectly consistent. Shueisha's colorists are sometimes at odds with Toyotaro's own color choices as well, like with Picco...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:41 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Except in the same arc he gets SS he also goes back to base, and turns back into a SS like twice. Though he is visibly angry while a SS. Broly's issue seems to be that if he even attempted to go into SS he would lose all control. Right, but it was clear he was still furious at Freeza. He had to pra...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Also, I just remembered what Goku told Trunks in the original series: Trunks: Can you become a Super Saiyan at will? Goku: Yeah. I couldn't at first, but after a lot of practice I learned to control it. That's exactly the same verbiage from Broly when he said himself that he couldn't use Super Saiya...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:07 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Story-telling doesn't work like that. Storytelling quite literally works like that. Comparative statements, milestones and the like are conveyed properly through the narrative and its dialogue exclusively, not databooks or excel charts. All characters are just metaphorical storytelling devices. The...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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...a point repeatedly made in the last several chapters is that Broly didn't make Super Saiyan his own. That was partly the entire purpose of his training.
I think I've added just about all there is to say here.
I think I've added just about all there is to say here.
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
All Broly has to do to go SSJ is go Berserk. Evidently not, since both the chapters and (again) his own film pointedly make the distinction between Broly simply going berserk and Broly also going Super Saiyan, which had an additional qualifier. Chapter 93's quote doesn't even mention Super Saiyan, ...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
CH. 101, 102 and 103 says Broly didn't know how to go SSJ after controlling himself; In a controlled state. However, Broly knows how to go SSJ when he loses control CH. 93 & 101. These are the facts. That doesn't even make sense. Broly doesn't "know" how to do anything when he's in a ...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:10 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Gohan was the “controlled berserker”. Broly was more like Gohan when he is not in that “controlled berserker” level. I think GreatSaiyaman123 's point is that Broly is using the actual form associated with SSFP, not necessarily that he's at max power. I agree that there's more strength to be drawn ...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:28 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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In the manga, the only visual difference is the bulk size between the stages. That's the most noticeable difference. Looking at the three occasions that Toyotaro drew the Broly arc (in addition to splash pages in the collected volumes) SSFP Broly's hair is also wilder and more unkempt compared to t...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:26 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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That's only for the movie, there is no indication thr green hair form or dimension break happened in the manga. His hair isn't green in the manga if you believe Shueisha's colorists, but the form itself absolutely happened. Per Naohiro Shintani, Toriyama only drew Broly's designs up to his less bul...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:33 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Do you think it's possible the manga is just ignoring the green hair? Maybe, but maybe not. In Toyotaro's 3 depictions of the Broly arc, we've seen an armored Super Saiyan Broly and a bulkier shirtless Super Saiyan Broly. The full color release from Shueisha displays the hair of both as a "dir...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:02 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Chapter 103 Broly compared to Broly (vs Blue Gogeta).....which one is supposed to be stronger? I was under the impression that Broly didn't access his "Beserk" level of strength vs Gohan, therefor he is still way stronger than what chapter 103 showed......or am I wrong? It depends. If you...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:46 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Is Super on its way out?
- Replies: 44
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Re: Is Super on its way out?
Ever the bingo dancing negotiator, Vegeta decides to work again under Freeza part-time as a bargain to keep his home untouched by the Freeza Force. His goons are still allowed to visit as tourists though.
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:17 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Gohan has more power and speed, but Goku has more experience and control over his skills This is also true. There's a reason Toyotaro said he wanted readers to think about their different approaches to fighting, both of which are valid. Where Ultra Instinct is oriented towards defense and evasion, ...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:04 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
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Let me get one thing clear to you, I only didn't quote you because I forgot to use the quote feature. You are the literal last person I'd ever be worried about. :lol: My man, we're anonymous people on a forum discussing a Japanese kid's comic. I dunno what's giving you the impression I think you're...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:47 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Also, I want to be clear that I'm not even disagreeing that Gohan had the edge against Broly, even though that edge was attributed more to Gohan's experience than his power. I think most of us would concur he's at the top right now. The gap between him and the others just isn't as wide as a lot of u...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
- Views: 3939036
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
"I see some bad takes" Correct. I also see some bad faith. If you're going to address a point I made, you can respond to me directly. The quote feature exists for a reason. Yes, there are bad and self-evidently biased takes from at least a couple of users in this thread. My post didn't qu...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:17 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39975
- Views: 3939036
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Seeing some badly misguided takes in this thread. This chapter specifically makes it a point that Broly has to access/control his power the same way that Gohan does; it's why he benefits from observing Gohan in the first place. So if there's some hidden "berserk" level of power for Gohan, ...