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I should correct myself. It was probably Ashita no Joe, first released in 1968, that pioneered tournament arcs.

I like both Bardocks, overall I think they are good characters. Although Toriyama's one is slightly inferior due to a worse design. If he had kept at least the headband...

Neato, but it doesn't make the rest of Online canon.

So one statement that you made up is enough to render Dragon Ball ...

Actually, it isn't; there isn't any legal way to buy or stream that special.

Splitting hairs. It was available in Japan.

No one in any official capacity has ever said product A is canon, while product B isn't.

V-Jump said DBS Broly brought Gogeeta and Broly into canon, which implies the ...

The availability of something is irrelevant. Tarble OVA hasn't been released worldwide, that didn't stop Tarble from being mentioned thrice.

The Tarble OVA is actually available in Japan, Dragon Ball's country of origin.

Dragon Ball Online's Yadorats appear in the Dragon Ball Super manga ...

I don't really mind Gokuu and Gohan not doing anything in the film, since they already got to fight Broly again in Movie 10.

Vegeeta and Piccolo were absent from Movie 10, though, so they definitely should've appeared here. Replace Kurilin and No.18 with them for sure. I'd do away with Mr. Satan ...

Doesn't Dragon Ball Online only using manga panels as cutscenes, manga-only content, down to manga colors make it part of the manga?

Not at all. The Super DBZ game used manga colors, too, and referenced some official artwork from Toriyama, but that doesn't make it canon to the manga.

At the end ...

If it's not part of the author's continuity, then it's not canonical.

What makes something part of "author's continuity"?

If it's part of the manga, for one. And if it's not but the author still worked on it, we would need to be given some indication or confirmation that it's part of the ...

No, not necessarily. A work can be out of a certain continuity and still be canonical.

If it's not part of the author's continuity, then it's not canonical.

By the way, what's your stance related to Dragon Ball Online?


Pretty sure it's not canon, as DBS contradicts it. No more canon than ...

The music that played when Gokuu and Oob were fighting in the first episode (or the "Grand Problem" recap episode) was fairly distinct, imo. At least it was more upbeat than most of the other Menza tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAWAahsmj-M

I also kinda like the ending montage and Super ...

What else has received that term?

I'm not sure how many times Shuiesha has used it, but it's a common term in Japanese.

re the old movies, Dragon Ball GT and whatnot not "official history"?

That's the implication. DBS brought Gogeeta and Broly into the "authentic history", meaning Fusion ...

No, it's just the truth.

It's not, hence V-Jump saying that DBS brought Broly and Gogeeta into Dragon Ball's "authentic history". In other words, canon.

And you don't speak for the many Japanese fans who argue about this just as we do.

*Torishima didn’t immediately understand the word ‘canon ...

An equivalent term for "canon" in Japanese is 正史 (seishi), which literally translates to "official history" or "authentic history". That was the term V-Jump used for DBS's versions of Broly and Gogeeta.

Even though they don't actually say the word "canon" in Japanese, they still know the concept ...

Dragon Ball hadn't quite yet become the "Gokuu & Vegeeta Show" when Movie 11 first came out in 1994. That started towards the end of the manga in 1995. GT moved away from before sorta going back to it just as the show was ending in 1997. Then, the franchise went all in on it when Resurrection F came ...

I'd rank it pretty low, although I enjoy most of the Z movies.

Bio Broly isn't bad by any means. It just lacks Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan, and is a disappointment for those who wanted another actual Broly movie.

Its continuity is interesting, as it acts as a followup to both Movie 10 and the 25th ...

Bringing Broly back for the second time was lazy, but it made sense given his popularity and the box office performance of the other movies. None of the movies are particularly creative, anyway. Bio-Broly had a stupid-looking design as he just looked like he was covered in poop, but I think it's ...

Movie 10 was worse.

Overall, I'd say the very worst movie was Resurrection F.

Doesn't look like Toriyama drew Coo's SS3-parody transformation.

Toriyama was just inconsistent on Gokuu using "ore" and "ora". For instance, Gokuu tends to flip-flop between saying "ore-tachi" and "ora-tachi" when grouping himself with other characters.

Ah, the scenes I spoke of weren't "brand new"; they were just redrawn and reanimated.

The animators made a small new scene for Vegeeta's fight with Gohan in the Saiyan arc. It was just the explosions from Vegeeta spamming Ki blasts, if I remember correctly.

I also think the first episode had a small new scene of kid Gokuu jumping around during the flashback to OG DB.