Kanzenshuu

Rocketman wrote:

MarCas92 wrote:Once an American fan says Goku sounds like a girl or anything of that sort, their opinions no longer matter to me.

That's an objectively correct fact, though.

But some little boys sound like girls so...yer no.

How do we know that Gohan was even trying - I don't remember his SSJ aura being present. Again - still points to the boys being weaker than Gohan and the others. Because he is sweating his heart out? Have you even seen the scene in the manga? He is like 'Holy shi~' in a couple of scans and then lat...

This one looks legit, but the way it's cropped there's no way to tell who's saying it or where it was printed. The question is why Broli was revived 3 times (...shouldn't that just be 2 times?...), and the anonymous answer is that he's, like, totes the strongest guy ever, so they had to have him ma...

Is Axiom for real? Wow...

Honestly, I think Piccolo saying 'don't show up if you're not going to be of any use' line in the Trunks arc, is enough to rate the Earthlings pretty high. It just looks like AT is giving a huge 'hint, hint, nudge, nudge' to the reader. Then you couple that with Ten making the conscious decision to ...

I don't forget that Gohan has SS2. However, it doesn't seem like Vegeta is comparing Trunks to that and is just speaking generally. So I just compare them generally. If Goten is the same strength as Gohan, Trunks is already stronger than Gohan. Gohan can make himself stronger with SS2, but that doe...

Though the manga implies that Trunks still isn't as strong as Gohan, since Vegeta was trying to make Trunks stronger than Gohan. Why does everyone forget that Gohan still has Super Saiyan 2 in these debates? Trunks and Goten can be roughly FPSSJ Gohan level yet still be weaker. The manga seems to c...

No... In Battle of Gods 100% Freeza > base Goku is Implied and it's a canon film. Furthermore how is Kaioshin supposed to know what the Ssj multiplier is and how is he supposed to guesstimate when he doesn't know Vegeta's or Goku's full power? I'll tell you can't. Kaioshin is also incredibly unreli...

No... In Battle of Gods 100% Freeza > base Goku is Implied and it's a canon film. Furthermore how is Kaioshin supposed to know what the Ssj multiplier is and how is he supposed to guesstimate when he doesn't know Vegeta's or Goku's full power? I'll tell you can't. Kaioshin is also incredibly unreli...

Kaioshin is a mug really. Hell, he even seemed to be in complete awe of the Saiyans in their regular forms. He didn't live up to Piccolo's hype at all.

Accurate in the sense that views from the Japanese version are conveyed in the dub, yes.

Raditz's, Nappa's, Piccolo's (Saiyan Saga), Dodoria's, Zarbon's, Freeza's, and Vegeta's were all ignored. Funny because all of those (apart from Freeza and his henchmen maybe) have controversial 'official' pls. For example, Piccolo said enraged Gohan was stronger than himself (which certainly seeme...

What if the man says two blatantly contradictory things? Someone would likely correct him. And if nobody does? You're left with inconsistencies, just like with the manga itself. The man isn't God, his word is not infallible. His statements and contributions that weren't in the manga are all in one ...

Kaioshin was just a chump so he probably would just blast him away. He was getting in the way of something that was meant to happen (according to Goku and Vegeta at least).

Yerrr...no.

If anything, Nappa is stronger than 4,000.

Son Goku is the strongest because of SSG form. I've never read the official guides so I'm not sure how Gohan is this super powerful warrior people claim he is, Gotenks Buu beat him and ultimately Goku beat Buu. My logic is simple, Goku actually beat Buu so Goku is strongest. I always assumed Kid Bu...

Kaboom wrote:I think trying to buckle down any specific constant multiplier for either Fusion method is mostly futile. There could be other factors aside from simply the two fusers' power that plays into the result.

More to the point, AT didn't think along those lines while drawing the manga.

Yeah, I remember the scan saying 'several/many times stronger'. It was a picture of SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten fusing into SSJ Gotenks. Can't provide a link though...

I tend to have this as a compromise between gag scenes and statements made;

SSJ3 Gotenks~Evil Boo>SSJ Gotenks (post)>SSJ3 Goku>SSJ Gotenks (pre)>Base Gotenks (post)>Fat Boo>Base Gotenks (pre)~SSJ2 Goku.

Well, I think it's fair to say that Gohan did better than Goku. Maybe Toriyama remembered xD How do you figure? They both got their asses kicked, if anything it seems like Goku did better because he lasted longer in battle. Gohan did at least lay a hand on Billy with that short-lived full nelson, w...