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The fact is Beerus is the man and ain't no mortal near him.

Let it go people.

You didn't add the facts. The point for Broly was to control himself. Not trying to achieve SSJ. The idea of making SSJ his own to mean not being able to access it is flat out wrong.

All Broly has to do to go SSJ is go Berserk. Evidently not, since both the chapters and (again) his own film pointedly make the distinction between Broly simply going berserk and Broly also going Super Saiyan, which had an additional qualifier. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding when 101 and 102 b...

CH. 101, 102 and 103 says Broly didn't know how to go SSJ after controlling himself; In a controlled state. However, Broly knows how to go SSJ when he loses control CH. 93 & 101. These are the facts. That doesn't even make sense. Broly doesn't "know" how to do anything when he's in a ...

Saying when Broly controls his power, making him stronger than the rest is just a theory. That's OK to have.

There lies the problem. You claimed last post Broly was stronger than Beerus now you are saying it was implied. You corrected yourself. Not seeing the issue here. The implication hasn’t changed: the Broly from the movie is probably stronger than Beerus. It’s not wrong to make such a claim. I just f...

There lies the problem. You claimed last post Broly was stronger than Beerus now you are saying it was implied. You corrected yourself. Secondly, Broly controlling SSJ or not is not the issue on this topic. The issue is people were/are theorizing that Broly could never use his full power in the Moro...

CH. 101, 102 and 103 says Broly didn't know how to go SSJ after controlling himself; In a controlled state. However, Broly knows how to go SSJ when he loses control CH. 93 & 101. These are the facts. The headcanon is that Broly could never go SSJ at all. This is something that was absolutely nev...

In CH. 93 Broly was going Berserk. Broly could always go SSJ. He'd just lose control doing so. They made it clear in chapter 102 or 103 that he couldn't transform at all. Not true. Broly purposelessly suppressed it because he would lose control doing so. Hence why in CH 93 he was Going to transform...

In CH. 93 Broly was going Berserk. Broly could always go SSJ. He'd just lose control doing so.

We can guess work on Broly all day but the chronological canonical facts are that Broly was never among the strongest in the universe during the Granolah arc. Therefore subject to the supreme powers of Granolah, Gas, Goku and Vegeta. He always had his berserker power too, stated in Super Hero's CH. ...

Gohan didn't fight Broly at full power. Goku/Gohan started out in their best forms, after Goku duels Ultra Instinct [Highest tech of the gods] he asks if Gohan has "some gas left in the tank." Meaning he is not at his best [Lost ki/stamina]. Broly against Gohan still proceeds to get tossed...

Gohan was the only one considered for the god of destruction position along with Goku/Vegeta. Not Broly, even after Whis seen this guy twice. Broly even being stronger than his past version of SSJ [against Gogeta] can't even garner such attention from the gods still. The fact that broly can't contro...

Even with some improvement for Broly right now he still isn't even close to Beerus level! What type of monster Toriyama got in Beerus here.

The point is, Goku and Gohan were the stars of the show. Heck you even have one translation stating it was "strongest vs strongest." Broly's SSJ couldn't even best Gohan when Gohan was not even at full power ["some gas left in the tank"]. Yet Broly got tossed by Gohan. This is Go...

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After actually reading the chap [instead of skimming] Gohan Beast definitely did knock Kakarot out of UI with one blow. Gohan himself said it was "a clean hit."

I just hope they have notes from Toriyama on a new movie/arc. If possible they could build on that.