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by Miracles
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Battle of gods said so. Fusion was denied an option to beat Beerus. This has never changed. Let us know when it does. You're not making any sense whatsoever. You're saying that because what is essentially a hypothetical Buu saga Gogeta / Vegito couldn't defeat Beerus... he's stronger than all fusio...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Thinking is one thing, but the narrative already factually said they can't. Literally the only time fusion was compared to Beerus in the narrative: Ch. 23, pg. 43.6-7 Context: as Vegetto prepares his Final Kamehameha Kaioshin: “A-amazing… This is incredible…! The power of Vegetto… Could it already ...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Thinking is one thing, but the narrative already factually said they can't.
by Miracles
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here. Indeed, Fusion is irrelevant, because Fusion remains weaker than Beerus. Beerus was introduced as a character who is above even Fusion. That is the function of his character. It was so in BoG, and it was so in ever...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here. If you want something from the movies, Gogeta Blue ran circles around someone as strong as Beerus. Never stated. People you are going against the story. Beerus came into Super stronger than fusion and that narratio...
by Miracles
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

A fusion with Spirit Fission in the Galactic Patrol arc couldn't even beat Moro73 with Spirit Fission. Blue fusions are still currently weaker than Beerus.
by Miracles
Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576597

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

SUPER HERO Arc ends this month https://twitter.com/SupaChronicles/status/1768088784183189869 What the official website says is that this is the "climax" (literally using the English word "climax" in katakana as クライマックス). The machine/automated/lightly-touched-but-not-actually-a-t...
by Miracles
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

No one ever surpassed Beerus in the movies, Broly, Beast Gohan, Gogeta Blue, Cell Max and Orange Piccolo are all stronger than Beerus. Jiren is not stronger in terms of raw power but is a better fighter than him. The last stated strength level of Beerus was when Whis said SSJB Goku and Vegeta worki...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Should end with Beerus. This whole thing started because Beerus is the strongest entity in the universe [Only Whis is stated to be stronger], who was looking for a rival. No one ever surpassed Beerus in the movies, manga and anime anyway.
by Miracles
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42683
Views: 5576597

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In light of Akira Toriyama's untimely passing, my continued readership of Super, at this point, is going one of two ways: 1. If Toriyama was actively working with Toyotaro on a future story arc for the past couple of years and much of the plot outline is already finished, it's certainly posthumous ...
by Miracles
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Pertaining to the chapter Beerus is right to ask Whis if Silver-Haired Goku is Goku's strongest form. Despite Goku already telling Gohan that both should use their best. Goku held back SSJ3 against Majin Vegeta, He lied about using full power against Fat Buu. Held back Full power Blue in the Future ...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Doesn't change the fact that his rage boost ability is there; exists. So you can't give me a straight answer then? In turn admitting Gohan's rage boosts aren't consistent, contrary to what you claimed before? If the writing wasn't "bad" you would be able to give me a simple logical answer...
by Miracles
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

There was no plot twist. Your simply reaching and connecting dots that aren't there. It's stated that Gohan has rage boost it's not stated that he can't do it. So between the Cell Games and Super Hero, where were these massive rage boosts when Gohan needed them? Doesn't change the fact that his rag...
by Miracles
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

It does exist hence why Goku and Vegeta state themselves despite his lack of training that Gohan could go into a frenzy and be the strongest. It was building up to a plot twist, like when Tien thought Goku could defeat Freeza because still had kaio-ken in his back pocket when he was mistaken. Chapt...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

In the Buu Saga Goku also told Gohan to get mad so he could release all his true potential and he wouldn't lose to anyone in the entire world. You do realise Goku and Vegeta's words were just building up to the reveal that Gohan couldn't get anymore meaningful rage boost power-ups? Chapter: 458 (DB...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:04 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

But Gohan exploded against Radditz when he got angry. Radditz noted that his power changes with his emotions. Against Vegeta and Nappa, Piccolo said if Gohan put his mind to it his power surpasses his [Piccolo uses a similar line about Goahn in Super Hero]. Against Second form Freeza, Gohan snapped ...
by Miracles
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

I hate how, every time now after Goku’s fight with Granolah, his UI has been depicted as simply a generic power-up. Gohan's Beast form is just that, a monstrous raw numbers boost that somehow puts him on the level of gods, kinda like Jiren's strength. But as the Granolah arc clarified, Goku’s silve...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro could probably use his magic to slow down Gogeta/Vegetto somehow. Remember he pinned down UIO Goku? That or Piccolo just has the IQ of your average Fanverse poster. Moro > Fusion is completely off the table. Piccolo's line is basically "Fusion would've been our trump card if not for Spiri...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work against Moro. Then how in the world is Moro 7-3 going to tag and damage a current fusion dance or Patora merge with Goku and Vegeta? Thoughts? Moro could probably...
by Miracles
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39785
Views: 3828374

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Also what do you guys think about this scenario brought up in fanverse...? https://i.postimg.cc/BnYgCBzX/ZSLHlkr.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jSdcNFZp/umoUqSN.jpg The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work agai...