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by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

Reccome survived Vegeta's blasts with no major damage and called it a warm up. Vegeta could not even survive Cui Cui's blasts if he had to stay still instead of using his speed to move Zarbon and Dodria can take out Vegeta if they team up. Again, Reccome beat Vegeta easier than Monster Zarbon so 40...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Hatchiyack?
Replies: 48
Views: 8539

Re: How strong is Hatchiyack?

RandomGuy96 wrote:I think base Bojack is weaker than Cell Games SS Gohan anyway.
That's wrong
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?
Replies: 577
Views: 41179

Re: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?

Evil Boo >>>> SSJ3 Goku is in the Manga and it's clear

Only a fool or a biased fanboy would say otherwise
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

Reccome survived Vegeta's blasts with no major damage and called it a warm up. Vegeta could not even survive Cui Cui's blasts if he had to stay still instead of using his speed to move Zarbon and Dodria can take out Vegeta if they team up. Again, Reccome beat Vegeta easier than Monster Zarbon so 40...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Hatchiyack?
Replies: 48
Views: 8539

Re: How strong is Hatchiyack?

Movie 10 LSS Broly- Super Perfect Cell Super Hatchiyak- Full Power Perfect Cell Super Bojack- Slightly below FPPC. Hatchiyak- Cell Games SS Gohan Movie 8 LSS Broly- Warm-up Perfect Cell = Movie 10 SS Broly Bojack- Cell Games Goku Movie 8 SS Broly- Initial Perfect Cell Hatchiyack is > Cell Games SSJ...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?
Replies: 577
Views: 41179

Re: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?

And the only reason why Evil Boo mentions their size is to show why they can't escape out of his body because they are too small but not why they can't win. Being unfused is the reason which is why Evil Boo is happy when he hears they can't fuse
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

You are missing the point. The point is, those other tanking feats are because of huge power differences. If Recoome was much, much stronger than Vegeta, than Vegeta couldn't scratch him. So he's obviously not that far ahead. And you haven't answered my question of why 37,000 can't work. The differ...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

You are missing the point. The point is, those other tanking feats are because of huge power differences. If Recoome was much, much stronger than Vegeta, than Vegeta couldn't scratch him. So he's obviously not that far ahead. And you haven't answered my question of why 37,000 can't work. The differ...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Hatchiyack?
Replies: 48
Views: 8539

Re: How strong is Hatchiyack?

Hatchiyack > M8 LSSJ Broly who should be Cell Games FPSSJ tier

I would say Hatchiyack is around Base Bojack and above Cell Games SSJ Gohan but below Perfect Cell
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?
Replies: 577
Views: 41179

Re: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?

BejitaSama wrote:Goku always want to fuse, even against Fat Buu.
The SSJ3 was not introduced at that time

Stop with this size excuse. How many times it should be debunked?
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

Vegeta's attack > Vegeta and it hardly damaged Reccome stated by Gohan. The physical state is irrelevant as Reccome's ki was still the same. 37,000 can't beat someone who has a power level of 30,000 that easily. Reccome had a bigger lead Monster Zarbon had on Vegeta so 40,000 is right IMO while Rec...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?
Replies: 577
Views: 41179

Re: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?

Goku straight up said that Super Buu would kill him and Vegeta. How does it not get clearer than that? Well, its possible that Goku was referring to the fact they were tiny at the moment. I don't believe that but I guess its possible. Either, like I said, more than a 90% degree of certainty that Su...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

You do realize that just because you're not using the words "it's a fact," it doesn't mean that you aren't stating your views as facts. What is a fact is that numerous people have asked you to stop doing this. And I never said it's a fact, I said Reccome was >> Vegeta was a fact and you c...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can higher levels of Super Saiyan be mastered?
Replies: 63
Views: 6977

Re: Can higher levels of Super Saiyan be mastered?

Holding back=/=suppressed is your opinion. You say that like it's a fact when it wasn't stated. Goku showed off and acted too cool against Pure boo in the beginning of his fight, what part of this aren't you understanding? Exactly, a full power KHH which means he wasn't full power against Pure boo ...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:19 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

You do realize that just because you're not using the words "it's a fact," it doesn't mean that you aren't stating your views as facts. What is a fact is that numerous people have asked you to stop doing this. And I never said it's a fact, I said Reccome was >> Vegeta was a fact and you c...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:17 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why did Toriyama...
Replies: 46
Views: 4124

Re: Why did Toriyama...

Gohan just got done healing Videl, he isn't angry about someone he saved. Gohan asks Kibito if he wants to see SSJ2 and he easily does it. No matter how you look at this debate, it can go both ways. Gohan may or may not have been SSJ2 against Dabura. We could look at the Daizenshuu and it says that...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:07 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

I never said it's a fact The members should be in the middl between 30,000 to 60,000 ehich is at least 40,000 Because your post makes no sense How can he be 35,000 when Vegeta was 30,000? 40,000 is at least logical Edit: What Kaboom said :D Reccome easily beat Vegeta who was 30,000 so he must be at...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?
Replies: 577
Views: 41179

Re: SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku By How Much?

Gohan was to build up drama http://www.mangapark.com/manga/dbz/c497/3 Look what Kaioshin says They were watching Gotenks through the crystal so feeling him would be out of context. They never felt Pure Boo but watched him through the crystal I am not rude That's not an in-universe answer. Buu sense...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nail And The Ginyu Force
Replies: 110
Views: 13188

Re: Nail And The Ginyu Force

You can't prove it. So stop stating it as fact. He easily beat Vegeta and took no real damage. You can't prove he is at 37,000. That's too low. Vegeta says he is a baby next to Reccome. Reccome was able to survive his amplified blast and never took a serious damage. He was even laughing. 40,000 is ...
by Undertaker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can higher levels of Super Saiyan be mastered?
Replies: 63
Views: 6977

Re: Can higher levels of Super Saiyan be mastered?

Raditz doesn't even know how to suppress his ki so I am disappointed that you would use him as proof. Goku said he was going to go all out against Pure boo yes, but afterwards he says that he showed off too much and thought he could do better that way. Vegeta even said that Goku needs to gather his...