Kanzenshuu

I loved every moment of this mini arc. Each page was bursting with enthusiasm and personality. So many fun developments and interactions. Three chapters was the perfect amount. The idea of a straightforward retelling does not excite me. Hopefully they find ways to keep things surprising and interest...

Shorty GZ2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:46 am

batistabus wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:19 pm

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Well, seems like I was totally wrong about Gero's disc LOL

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Remind me to never go along with your manga predictions or bets in the future

We've seen Gohan teach Videl and Piccolo teach Pan. These flying lessons are based in the Earthling tradition of spirituality and ki control. (Also, both are great scenes.) Out in the universe, the only other society with a deep understanding of spirit energy is the Yardratians. Yet many brutish Fre...

Much of the criticism about filler or the inconsequential nature of this arc applies to everything since the JSAT special. It doesn't matter if the story pretends that the entire universe will explode or not... we know Goku will meet Oob, Gohan's a nerd, Trunks/Goten are weaker than their fathers wa...

JulieYBM wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:47 pm Like, do you mean "Dragon Ball Super is not the 1984 comic"? If so, well, duh, it's a project unto itself and being its own thing is legitimate.

That's part of it. My statement has nothing to do with legitimacy, quality, integrity, or stakes, and it's not meant to be an insult.

All of Super is filler.

Love this one from Toyotaro: Funny thing is, going by Toyotaro's words, it seems as though Icarus wouldn't be off the table for modern DB. Specifically, he states that if Icarus were to ever appear in a future, modern DB-era story, he most likely wouldn't be anywhere near as big as he appears here....

I'm having so much fun with this. Hedo is especially great here.

Every time I read your summaries (really good, by the way) I just think of things I want to comment on for later in the arc! I will say that Beerus giving Vegeta the earring felt like a huge moment. There's so much in Super that builds up to it. You have Vegeta's (IV/III/planet) history with Beerus,...

A couple delayed thoughts: I just realized that the Saiyaman X are wearing hoods instead of helmets. Thinking about their outfits in general...how did they get those? The visor looks like Tagoma's scouter, and the outfits generally look like Saiyan armor. Are these prototype outfits Bulma made for V...

Okay, not going to lie. The 'Tori, Toyo, and editorial staff' idea right there is what truly worries me over the idea that Goten is likely going to be (for the most part) shafted. I mean, Toyotaro (and Toriyama, to some extent) seem pretty set over the idea that Goten being involved in this mini-ar...

Since some of us care about who came up with what... Freeza at the end of Granolah : Planned from the beginning ("one of the first things that was decided"), not said who's idea it was. "The editorial department didn't talk about it"...I'm not sure what that implies. Black Freeza...

Gohan acts silly or serious depending on the situation, he's a dynamic character. For the most part, he's defined by being the more socially-adjusted foil for Goku. You're selectively glossing over that many of those scenes are prefaced or followed by moments where Gohan shows off his more serious ...

Eh, I think Gohan already covers the "put together" Son family member role well enough, with enough interesting traits to keep him compelling for the most part, including the occasional acts of clownery. Gohan is really silly once he grows up. There's the obvious Great Saiyaman stuff, his...

I don't mind if Goten doesn't stand much on his own as long as he compliments Trunks well, which he did in the original manga and in DBS88. As for being a less interesting Goku stand-in, that's also fine if handled properly. He retains the essence of Goku's iconic look/reactions, and like Goku and G...

Interesting interview. That character sheet has so much personality even though they're just standing there. Goten's portrait especially; it exudes purity and makes me smile back.

I like the Goichi-ichigo connection. I always thought his ship looked like a sandwich, so with your suggestion, it brings Japanese strawberry sandwiches to mind. I thought the most straightforward name pun was 51, which aligns with 73 (although Seven-three has the English pronunciation). I guess it ...

Despite everything I love about this version of Trunks, his characterization also makes sense as a grown up version of the one shaped by his moments in the Future Trunks arc. He has a lot to live up to (being cool, being heroic, winning over Mai), but so far, he keeps getting in his own way.

Surpassed my expectations in every sense. This story totally plays to Toyotaro's strengths. So much fun stuff going on. Trunks is the perfect protagonist; he's genuinely cool half the time (maybe 1/3...) and a total doofus the rest of the time. Goten plays the straight man unexpectedly, and he does ...