Kanzenshuu

Vegetto I could care less what you think buddy.

There's no way anyone on this forum could touch me. I've been boxing since 5th grade, and been doing MT for some time now, and besides, striking is irrelevant. One of the things DB got wrong. Striking, without grappling is irrelevant. And you don't just get lucky with grappling, either you know what...

I highly doubt that you could make me barf. I do striking training 3x a week , and you are probably the typical DB guy, whereas I'm not. KO by the end of the first minute. Lol.

Either way, SSJ2 Gohan is greatly superior to Buff Cell, so much so, that he punches him in his gut, and makes him throw up a previous absorption. That's insane.

Reecome only seems like a tank because he's fighting much weaker characters. Burter and Jeice should be able to pull off similar feats. Reecome takes this with ease. Although, one fun little angle I can play is that it's implied that Tullece has an attack that can kill 100,000 Gohan. If Tullece real...

That's not suggested by the story at all.

People who are weaker than you, or on par with you, don't make you throw up like that.

I'm just being realistic. It doesn't really matter anyhow. I'm probably the best power level guy ever, and what does that do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Gets your nowhere in life, and you get no accolades or anything. It doesn't matter, it's just a silly kid's show, I always wanted to know exactly...

The problem with that is that your debating based off a random number thrown out at you. Just look at the story, what does it tell you? Is the story suggesting that Buff Cell lost all of his defensive power? That his confidence was down and that's why he got wrecked? I mean, it's not rocket science....

Oh cmon now Kaboom. Give me some credit at least. Someone actually really put together a well thought out list, I would definitely be considering an authority on power levels across the fandom at least. I mean my logic spans multiple forums, and you will find droves of people who agree with my simpl...

I don't think it needs to be so complicated. Gohan wrecked Buff Cell because he was stronger than him. I don't think the story suggests what your saying. It's one thing if you are talking about a stamina drop, but I'm pretty sure that's not suggested. Even so, that kind of stamina issue that Trunks ...

I've considered that as well. One would think that with the way Super Saiyan Grade 3 has been shown off so far, and it's ability to surpass massive gaps, this would be the case. But, I think it's best to think that Power and Defense correlate with the transformation, and only Speed decreases. Since ...

I would definitely consider myself an authority on power levels, if you ask around, I'm sure in general people will agree with that to. I am to power levels, what Herms is to the translations bit. You guys would be well advised to keep your ears open when I'm displaying a point. I don't mind explain...

Super Saiyan Grade 3 is definitely an enormous boost. I don't see how anyone can make Super Saiyan 2 a bigger boost for Super Saiyan, than Super Saiyan Grade 3. If freaking Goku can surpass Semi Cell with Super Saiyan Grade 3, it must be tremendous. Super Saiyan 2 should probably be a 4x boost. Cell...

416 is only Goku's battle power after he takes off the weights initially. Goku could have gotten a lot stronger afterwards considering that's what he did at the 23rd Budokai... Also, Raditz being at 1,500 and Nappa being at 4,000 is just silly. Defending illogical numbers isn't really called for. It...

The guidebooks should be used as a guide. Their power levels, are generally in the right vicinity, and are quite reasonable. Does it mean that we should denounce all logic, and put the blinders on to make them work? Of course not. But use them, as for what they were intended for. They were meant as ...

The most logical POV regarding the Z Senshi vs Nappa would be...



Nappa ( Vs Z Senshi ) > Gohan's Masenko = 2,800 > Ten's Kikoho > Piccolo > Tenshinhan > Kuririn > Yamucha > Saibamen = 1,200



Everything else is mere speculation.

Kami boosting Piccolo should be the same regardless of time period IMO. That's the only logical way of doing things I would think...

You may be forgetting that, Kamiccolo ( Pre Nail ) only might be stronger than 530k Freeza.

This plays a factor because, Kami's boost for Piccolo, should be at least comparable to his boost to Piccolo in the Androids Saga.

Are you accounting for that as well?

FNF, you are using similar numbers to me... This was an interesting method I used.... Yamucha 1,300 Kuririn 1,500 ( As stated on Namek by scouter reading ) Tenshinhan 1,800 Piccolo 2,300 Now remember , what we got the saga before... Piccolo ( Post Fight Weighted ) 329 Tenshinhan 250 Kuririn 206 Yamu...

I doubt that is likely. I mean, I won't use full power, but I'll use 96% of my power during a power up, seems like a twisting kind of logic. Your better off with a , the scouter says AROUND 1,500 or whatever the line is type of logic, if you want a better clash. 1,770 is around 1,500, so I wouldn't ...