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- Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:13 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 14590
- Views: 1512294
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Yeah, there's plenty of variety with Kikuchi, original Dragon Ball has a lot more adventurous music and Z has more battle-focused pieces. This. Kikuchi's critics tend to overlook that his Pre-Z and Z era work is very different tonally. The man understood that things changed with Z and changed accor...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:23 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Goten and Trunks did seem to have more of a fighting spirirt than Oob at a similar age imo, I'm not sure why they stopped caring given how much they loved thrill seeking in the buu saga but I guess EOZ decided they dont have the thirst. I think it's that they're simply more like average everyday pe...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:06 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Besides, one could argue that it was ultimately Oob who represented the next generation of fighters since Gohan, Goten, and Trunks all proved they didn't have the heart for it. This. Toriyama even stated that he updated the Kanzenban ending with Goku giving Kintoun to Uub to make it clear that the ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:17 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
The whole thing about staying dead to begin with had nothing to do with whether or not he could feasibly come back to life and more about how he feels the earth is better off if he wasn’t around to attract bad guys. Goku was choosing to remain dead and stay out of earthly affairs, it wasn’t a restr...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:30 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Which I can believe, but I'm just saying that narratively its contradictory. I disagree and think it's an overstatement to claim that he's undercutting what he said about trusting the kids by coming back to life. He did trust the kids to beat Buu, they just failed. He did trust Gohan to beat Buu, h...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:57 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
- Replies: 46
- Views: 1628
Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Yeah, how Toriyama chooses to draw characters or locations is more of a logistical and economical choice than a political one, he said something similar about Cell but that was more of a retrospective realization the finished design he wasn't satisfied with was too time consuming to draw because of...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:06 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Yeah a lot of people seem to think Toriyama was either setting up Gohan to be the new lead from the moment he was introduced (and I think Toei is to blame for a lot of that) Indeed. Makes me wonder if the "Gohan should have become the main character" sentiment would be as strong as it is ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:36 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Ultimately, I feel that reinstating the status quo basically destroyed years of ground work that Toriyama laid out from Saiyan arc all the way to Cell. You can argue that bringing Goku back to life as earths protector in the Buu saga contradicts the ending of the cell arc, and it completely undercu...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 996
- Views: 68882
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Yeah this is just moving goalposts. You said "Goku Black kept impaling people with not a drop of blood in sight". That is what you said. You are wrong. There are already enough problems to criticize about Super (as with any series, by the way, not just Super) without inventing non-existen...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:02 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 996
- Views: 68882
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
This is wrong. We do have drops of blood being shown when Black impales Vegeta and Trunks individually: Only one of those four images has any blood you don't have to squint to see, and the blood in the Trunks picture is so faint that it barely even looks like blood (it looks more like he's coughing...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
No, it did not. I get what you mean- that isn't what you were saying (to be charitable). The way this is worded though comes across like you're outright denying that your words made me feel a certain way: Me: "Your post came off a certain way to me" You: "No, it did not" When yo...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:44 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 996
- Views: 68882
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
TBF: I think the censoring robs some of the fights of their intensity. Agreed. I honestly found it a bit distracting that Goku Black kept impaling people with not a drop of blood in sight. It makes the fighting feel too...sanitized. Too clean. It also just looks weird. Like, when people get stabbed...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:54 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 996
- Views: 68882
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
This is just speculation, but in light of recent events, I wonder if Daima is the way it is because Toriyama went into it knowing it would likely be the final Dragon Ball thing he worked on. Daima heavily drawing from the Buu arc, the final arc of the manga, based on what we've seen thus far would m...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:22 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
- Replies: 349
- Views: 18578
Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Toriyama's (likely) final published words from December 2023, translated by Herms. Warning: the final paragraph where he acknowledges his failing health is... well, a tearjerker, to put it lightly. The bright side is that he worked on the entire story for Daima, so that's a swan song I'll be sure t...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:21 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
And you answered it with a very solid, justifiable, understandable and sensible reason to not go out seeking every Star Wars material. I think I made pretty clear that my only problem is with those that don't even try to go outside of the source material and (or still go but) judge everything other...
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:34 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
I'm kind of repeating myself here, but I really don't see the point in placing some kind of 'canon' on a pedastool, when it completely ignores whether a work of art is good . I think it's important that we keep that in mind, because it isn't some nebulous idea of 'canon' that is the connective tiss...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:27 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 187
- Views: 8054
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
What about his son? "As promised, the creator did oversee the story of Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, and Toriyama did so with his only son. 'Norihiro Hayashida, the producer at Toei Animation, explains that Akira Toriyama's son, Sasuke Toriyama was in charge of taking care of his father's leg...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:17 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
- Replies: 349
- Views: 18578
Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Man, Katsura's words were the most insightful and moving for me.
Specifically the part where he says Toriyama never felt great to him even though he knew he was great.
And the last words he got from Toriyama were "OK". Damn. They were buds.
Specifically the part where he says Toriyama never felt great to him even though he knew he was great.
And the last words he got from Toriyama were "OK". Damn. They were buds.
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:30 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
- Replies: 150
- Views: 13292
Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
It puts even more pressure on Daima to be good for starters and makes me wonder if the folks who've been shitting on Daima from day one will end up supporting it now, if only because it's now become the last major Dragon Ball project (that we currently know of) with Toriyama's direct involvement. Ot...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:59 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
- Replies: 349
- Views: 18578
Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Just woke up to this. Holy shit. RIP Toriyama, and thank you. Dragon Ball and everything that came from it- including me being an anime fan to begin with, was because of you; and I'll always be grateful for that. As a self-admitted "lazy" gag-manga guy that wound up becoming a highly influ...