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by Majin Buu
Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:13 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14590
Views: 1512294

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Yeah, there's plenty of variety with Kikuchi, original Dragon Ball has a lot more adventurous music and Z has more battle-focused pieces. This. Kikuchi's critics tend to overlook that his Pre-Z and Z era work is very different tonally. The man understood that things changed with Z and changed accor...
by Majin Buu
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:23 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Goten and Trunks did seem to have more of a fighting spirirt than Oob at a similar age imo, I'm not sure why they stopped caring given how much they loved thrill seeking in the buu saga but I guess EOZ decided they dont have the thirst. I think it's that they're simply more like average everyday pe...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:06 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Besides, one could argue that it was ultimately Oob who represented the next generation of fighters since Gohan, Goten, and Trunks all proved they didn't have the heart for it. This. Toriyama even stated that he updated the Kanzenban ending with Goku giving Kintoun to Uub to make it clear that the ...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

The whole thing about staying dead to begin with had nothing to do with whether or not he could feasibly come back to life and more about how he feels the earth is better off if he wasn’t around to attract bad guys. Goku was choosing to remain dead and stay out of earthly affairs, it wasn’t a restr...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:30 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Which I can believe, but I'm just saying that narratively its contradictory. I disagree and think it's an overstatement to claim that he's undercutting what he said about trusting the kids by coming back to life. He did trust the kids to beat Buu, they just failed. He did trust Gohan to beat Buu, h...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"
Replies: 46
Views: 1628

Re: Dragon Ball and Centrism disguised as "A Desire for works to stop being political"

Yeah, how Toriyama chooses to draw characters or locations is more of a logistical and economical choice than a political one, he said something similar about Cell but that was more of a retrospective realization the finished design he wasn't satisfied with was too time consuming to draw because of...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:06 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Yeah a lot of people seem to think Toriyama was either setting up Gohan to be the new lead from the moment he was introduced (and I think Toei is to blame for a lot of that) Indeed. Makes me wonder if the "Gohan should have become the main character" sentiment would be as strong as it is ...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:36 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Ultimately, I feel that reinstating the status quo basically destroyed years of ground work that Toriyama laid out from Saiyan arc all the way to Cell. You can argue that bringing Goku back to life as earths protector in the Buu saga contradicts the ending of the cell arc, and it completely undercu...
by Majin Buu
Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:13 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 996
Views: 68882

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Yeah this is just moving goalposts. You said "Goku Black kept impaling people with not a drop of blood in sight". That is what you said. You are wrong. There are already enough problems to criticize about Super (as with any series, by the way, not just Super) without inventing non-existen...
by Majin Buu
Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 996
Views: 68882

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

This is wrong. We do have drops of blood being shown when Black impales Vegeta and Trunks individually: Only one of those four images has any blood you don't have to squint to see, and the blood in the Trunks picture is so faint that it barely even looks like blood (it looks more like he's coughing...
by Majin Buu
Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:28 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

No, it did not. I get what you mean- that isn't what you were saying (to be charitable). The way this is worded though comes across like you're outright denying that your words made me feel a certain way: Me: "Your post came off a certain way to me" You: "No, it did not" When yo...
by Majin Buu
Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 996
Views: 68882

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

TBF: I think the censoring robs some of the fights of their intensity. Agreed. I honestly found it a bit distracting that Goku Black kept impaling people with not a drop of blood in sight. It makes the fighting feel too...sanitized. Too clean. It also just looks weird. Like, when people get stabbed...
by Majin Buu
Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 996
Views: 68882

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

This is just speculation, but in light of recent events, I wonder if Daima is the way it is because Toriyama went into it knowing it would likely be the final Dragon Ball thing he worked on. Daima heavily drawing from the Buu arc, the final arc of the manga, based on what we've seen thus far would m...
by Majin Buu
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 349
Views: 18578

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

Toriyama's (likely) final published words from December 2023, translated by Herms. Warning: the final paragraph where he acknowledges his failing health is... well, a tearjerker, to put it lightly. The bright side is that he worked on the entire story for Daima, so that's a swan song I'll be sure t...
by Majin Buu
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:21 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

And you answered it with a very solid, justifiable, understandable and sensible reason to not go out seeking every Star Wars material. I think I made pretty clear that my only problem is with those that don't even try to go outside of the source material and (or still go but) judge everything other...
by Majin Buu
Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

I'm kind of repeating myself here, but I really don't see the point in placing some kind of 'canon' on a pedastool, when it completely ignores whether a work of art is good . I think it's important that we keep that in mind, because it isn't some nebulous idea of 'canon' that is the connective tiss...
by Majin Buu
Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 187
Views: 8054

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

What about his son? "As promised, the creator did oversee the story of Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, and Toriyama did so with his only son. 'Norihiro Hayashida, the producer at Toei Animation, explains that Akira Toriyama's son, Sasuke Toriyama was in charge of taking care of his father's leg...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 349
Views: 18578

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

Man, Katsura's words were the most insightful and moving for me.

Specifically the part where he says Toriyama never felt great to him even though he knew he was great.

And the last words he got from Toriyama were "OK". Damn. They were buds.
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 13292

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

It puts even more pressure on Daima to be good for starters and makes me wonder if the folks who've been shitting on Daima from day one will end up supporting it now, if only because it's now become the last major Dragon Ball project (that we currently know of) with Toriyama's direct involvement. Ot...
by Majin Buu
Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:59 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 349
Views: 18578

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

Just woke up to this. Holy shit. RIP Toriyama, and thank you. Dragon Ball and everything that came from it- including me being an anime fan to begin with, was because of you; and I'll always be grateful for that. As a self-admitted "lazy" gag-manga guy that wound up becoming a highly influ...