Kanzenshuu

Personally, I’d have the last couple of seasons look something like: Season 4 - Raditz, Majuub, Mercenary Tao, Cabba, Omega Shenron, Toppo. Season 5 - Pikkon, Ribrianne, Chi-Chi, Bergamo, Jaco, King Piccolo. Season 6 - Pan (GT), Frost, Nam, Dabura, Yajirobe, Dyspo. Unpopular opinion but I say leave ...

How strong do you think Nam, King Chappa and Bora were at the beginning of Z, assuming they each continued training throughout that entire time period? How would they perform at the 22nd or 23rd tournaments? Any power level numbers welcome.

My absolute wildest dream, as likely as pigs flying, would be Rozie, I'd imagine her as a technical rushdown character with setplay elements due to her ability to control ki-blasts and really high combo and sauce potential due to her signature style being multi-hitting. She would have fun animation...

It's really a stomp from the second team. Actually, Goku or Vegeta could do it on their own, they could take all of them without any help. It could be an interesting fight if you remove Goku and Vegeta, though. Cool, so we’ll remove Goku and Vegeta, and make it: Merus, Master Roshi, Son Goten, Trun...

It is pretty bad that Uub isn’t in the game yet. He doesn't have a proper moveset though? As a kid he is inexperienced and can't even throw blasts, and as Majuub he would just be another Buu-similar character like Android 21 is who turns you into cookies. I’ve mentioned this before, but if you go b...

It is pretty bad that Uub isn’t in the game yet.

Team fight:

Merus, Master Roshi, Son Goten, Trunks, Jaco, Android #17, Chaozu, Tarble, Broly.

vs.

Son Goku, Vegeta, Son Gohan, Piccolo, Eighteen, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Majin Boo.


Current manga versions of everyone - the kids can fuse into Gotenks if it’s a stomp.

What’s the consensus on how strong the main cast could get with just regular Earth training? No fusions, no training under or having your power unlocked by Gods/Namekians, or going into a room where you can do an entire years worth of training in a single day, etc? Say, if the events of the series n...

First, I'm only talking about the anime and Yamcha maybe being included on the team is absolutely meant to be played for laughs. We know this because Yamcha is waiting around for Goku to tell him he's part of the team. He's not exactly humble about it either. This is not meant to be ambiguous. This...

It makes NO sense to even consider Yamcha when you're fighting for survival. Master Roshi was on the team tho... If Buu keeps falling asleep/hybernating, it's not like it would be hard to remember 17 is an option. He wasn't dead. He was wished back and they all knew it. Perhaps it shouldn't be Goku...

I don't think the characters view him as the perpetual loser but I also don't think they would give him a spot on the team of what is literally supposed to be made up of the best warriors in the universe. Yamcha is interesting but not that interesting, and it's not just the Saibaimen. He has lost p...

I guess my unpopular opinion is liking Roshi’s inclusion and liking his focus episode in the Tournament of Power. I also don’t give a shit about power levels so that helped. It’s not like they asked us to believe he was as stronger as Super Saiyan Blue Goku now. Also it was nice to bring 17 back. H...

Not an asspull, not even remotely. 17 isn't a favorite but it makes WAY more sense to bring him to a tournament with the best of the best than it does the guy who was always defeated in the first round of the tournament every single time and after so many years of being a punching bag, even the wri...

When was the last time Yamcha did anything meaningful in the story? That's not what an asspull is and that term is nonsense anyway. There are plenty of other terms one could use like "contrivance" or "deus ex machina". 17's role in the story is no less organic than your idea for...

Yamcha before 17? Sure, I don’t think 17 is particularly interesting in his own right, nor do I think Goku (or anyone in the main cast) would even think to include him if this were the original series. Guy hasn’t had anything to do with his only known relatives for several years and can’t be traced...

Android 17 should never have been brought back, at least not in the capacity he was. At best, 17 should have been a cameo in the Moro arc, a la Yamcha and Chaozu helping fight off Moro’s army - with all of 17’s major moments in Super being transferred to Gohan, 18, Piccolo, etc, instead. Ideally, th...

Koitsukai wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:06 amChi-Chi at best might become as strong as 21st TB finalists.

Chi-Chi had a power level of 130 at the 23rd Budokai, so she’d be well beyond 21st Budokai characters, even without training under Kami.

Chappa was probably above Roshi and Goku from that time period too.

If the following characters trained under Kami (and Mr. Popo) for the arrival of the Saiyans, how much stronger would each of them get, based off where you have them at the beginning of Z? - Bora - Chi-Chi - King Chappa - Master Roshi - Namu How powerful would these guys be after training with Kami,...

Yeah Yajirobe could easily be an "untrained fighter". Meaning that he was self-taught, no master necessary. He can do the things he does through a combination of inborn talent and real life training and experience in the wilderness. The guy certainly has been in some tough situations duri...

Yeah Yajirobe could easily be an "untrained fighter". Meaning that he was self-taught, no master necessary. He can do the things he does through a combination of inborn talent and real life training and experience in the wilderness. The guy certainly has been in some tough situations duri...