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Broly being stronger than Beerus doesn’t mean that Broly is stronger than Jiren. It was said in the anime that Jiren was above Beerus. But I guess if Goku did say that Broly is the strongest he’s ever fought than that puts him above Jiren. no.... Jiren is above belmond his own god that is all. No. ...

Broly being stronger than Beerus doesn’t mean that Broly is stronger than Jiren. It was said in the anime that Jiren was above Beerus. But I guess if Goku did say that Broly is the strongest he’s ever fought than that puts him above Jiren.

Yes. Kale > SSG Goku. And SSG Goku was enough to challenge Beerus.

he achieved ASSJ off-screen Dragon Ball Super did us a favor to show Vegeta going Super Saiyan Second Grade for the first time, also through a flashback, obviously. But we did see him transforming into it for the first time. Just like Super Saiyan transformation. As for the new power-up, well, it's...

Now that I think about it, remember when 18 and krillin attacked imperfect Cell and couldn’t even make him flinch? 18’s punches did nothing. And I assumed she didn’t train at all over the years, there wasn’t a point to. So I’ve been very surprised on how she’s been handling herself in the tournamen...

Now that I think about it, remember when 18 and krillin attacked imperfect Cell and couldn’t even make him flinch? 18’s punches did nothing. And I assumed she didn’t train at all over the years, there wasn’t a point to. So I’ve been very surprised on how she’s been handling herself in the tournament...

Can someone throw me all the reasons to believe 17 is SSB tier?

Again, this does not prove ANYTHING. The narrator has not specified that Gohan rivals Goku Blue, that's just convenient for you. The clip could be displayed from any moment of the fight while the narrator was speaking. It was too implicit to take as a fact. Gohan followed Freeza's strategy, but Fre...

Was he able to hurt Goku SSB? When did you see it? When was this shown? Do not make up lies '' Gohan has achieved a power that rivals that of Goku. '' Yes, with the Goku SSJ2. Why, conveniently, does that mean that Gohan rivals Blue? it means absolutely nothing. Gohan asked Goku to use ALL OF HIS P...

The key part of that statement is that the power was integrated. It doesn't necessarily mean the whole form. Plus I view that "integrated power" as a seed that has been planted, so that one day the true form will manifest. I don't think that he immediately had access and/or control of all...

I don't get how this can still be a from when Beerus already stated that the power was completely integrated into Goku after it wore off. The key part of that statement is that the power was integrated. It doesn't necessarily mean the whole form. Plus I view that "integrated power" as a s...

I don't get how this can still be a from when Beerus already stated that the power was completely integrated into Goku after it wore off.

I'm lost, how do we know SSG is back?

Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari. Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have. Just think of him using it casually like Beerus He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and ...

Goku using hakai after training with Beerus is too much but Trunk beating fused Zamasu with a random spirit bomb/sword attack fueled by 4 humans and 2 worn saiyans is fine? Ill take the manga over the anime any day. I think the fights are a hell of a lot better and make more sense.

Piccolo is already stronger if he's fighting SS Gohan who is stronger than Frost.

We see gohan with his bang in the new pics. So what? He had his bang when he was waving bye to Future Trunks too. Cause when he has bang it confirms he's in his mystic form in super. The bang doesn't confirm anything. Explain to me what happened to his mystic form after Future Trunks left then sinc...

pacz360 wrote:

mikey4111 wrote:According to the new pictures it looks like Gohan goes SS2 and not mystic.

We see gohan with his bang in the new pics.

So what? He had his bang when he was waving bye to Future Trunks too.

According to the new pictures it looks like Gohan goes SS2 and not mystic.

I loved it. The powerscaling was dead on I thought. Why should anyone in universe 6 be nearly as strong as Goku and Vegeta? They have God Ki and we saw how much of a gap it is from regular ki when beerus flicked ss3 Goku. Unless the fighters of universe 6 were trained by Vado, why would they stand a...