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I don't see what that contradicts in my statement? Base Goku in the ToP arc is stronger than the Kaioshins after he has gone through multiple training arcs since BoG, especially the Black arc training arc which multiplied his power immensely (Goku and Vegeta went from getting destroyed by SS1 Black...

Manga Goku never absorbed SSG's essence into his base or Super Saiyan forms so by the time U6 comes around he's only marginally stronger than his Boo arc self. Even if you believe the God essence absorption eventually got retconned in the anime, or believe in the two base theory, the anime version ...

Angels, Fusions and GoDs aside, would this be an accurate top 20 ranking of the current strongest characters, dead or alive? Manga only scaling. 1. Gohan Beast 2. Black Freeza 3. LSS Broly, as of Superhero 4. Cell Max 5./6. UI Goku/ UE Vegeta 7. Gas 8. Granolah 9. Angel Moro 10. Merus, provided he ...

Is Anime!Goku superior to Manga!Goku? Surely they start the same in Battle of Gods even as Super Saiyan Gods, but then Anime absorbs SSJG, and even if it’s retconned he’s still pretty strong in some episodes… and then the anime also has the limit breaking stuff the manga rarely does. If Beerus and ...

The one he literally tries to kill when he was down.

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:27 pm I wonder if Yamu and Spopovich could also be so strong based on their flying, but their zombie-like stamina could also explain that.

They have always been weird. Sure they have zombie-like stamina but would that be enough to fly with a freaking aura? Not even BoZ Goku or Piccolo could do that.

I think between cranberry and Nappa is perfect. They killed baby saiyans because they basically didn't have anyone to kill adults, I know he has had time to train since but yeah... Jaco trained. There's no other way him beating Cranberry works without it. The average Saiyan is between 1,000 and 2,0...

Who is the toughest opponent this guy can beat in DB/DBZ? https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/2021/03/18/96090eeb-6a82-40fe-b2c8-5b0e791b0b28/dragon-ball-super-jaco-galactic-patrol-prisoner-arc-anime-manga-1247743.jpg He should be around the 3,000 - 5,000 range IMO. He not only beat up a bunch of Fr...

List done up to the Freeza Saga, it's on my signature now. Decided to wait until both Saiyan and Freeza were done since they're like, 80% official numbers. Work on the Cell Saga will begin soon. I'mma try to scale DBS and GT to see if we can finally have a fair comparison, using the Buu arc as basi...

XenoSaiyan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:01 pm Who is the strongest character in Super that Omega Shenron can beat?

Initial Fused Zamasu, maybe.

PICCOLO https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11138/111380194/8671297-0775751516-2907e.jpg VS BROLY https://gamepress.gg/dblegends/sites/dblegends/files/2020-12/RDl1SHN.png Broly's only chance is going Super Saiyan full power and that's still up the air because Piccolo's skill would def...

1) Buff Roshi 4 times base? Any reason why? I always give him 1.5/2 times. 2) Don't you think Tao is a bit too close to Goku post Karin? Some people even think the Battle Jacket is stronger than Tao. I can't believe I never caught Raditz's line about Gohan being described as only stronger than Goku...

Kami's influence definitely dampened his competitive drive, though we still see sparks of it in Super. He already had a pretty insane power boost just before the Tournament of Power that put him on the same level as a suppressed Gohan. I'd like to believe that getting a genuine top-tier transformat...

Took me quite a while, specially with all the images, but I finally did a significant portion of my list, up to the start of the Saiyan Saga. I took some clues from both DanielSSJ's list (specially on his interpretation of some official power levels) and this list from a guy called ThePrinceOfSaiya...

Yuji wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:33 pm Is it not fair to simply claim Broly in SH is stronger than his initial appearance?

Broly (SH) > Moro > Broly (Broly)

Anyway, Kuririn just got some nice feats in the recent chapter. He seems relative to base Trunks and Goten, if not stronger.

I guess Toyo watched the anime ToP lol.

I actually have Fat Boo equal to Super Boo lol. That's only when his splitting up though so if you mean the Fat Boo that fought SS3 Goku then I have him around 70% of him. Daizenshuu 2 says Boo powers up by absorbing himself, so I'd say peak Fat Boo was never on Super Boo's level. Super Boo's Ki al...

How would you rank/tier at the moment all the members of the Dragon Team in all of their forms? If we take Goku's forms for example as a "tier", where do the other characters rank? Not just in their strongest, like Beast vs UI/UE, but in their other forms as well, like how does Ultimate G...

I just found this thread and it seems its about power levels so I'm gonna make a Z one Saiyan saga Raditz Arc Piccolo (w/weights): 329 Goku (w/weights): 334 Piccolo (w/o weights): 408 Goku (w/o weights): 416 Goku (Kamehameha): 924 Gohan (Enraged): 1307 Piccolo (1st SBC): 1330 Piccolo (2nd SBC): 148...

Who is the strongest that a Orange Piccolo Daimao could beat? Let's see. My current multiplier for MUI is 100,000,000 base and let's be generous and have Piccolo be in between base and SS tier by the movie (He's base tier at the ToP). That would give us a multiplier of 4,000,000 and make Daimao hav...

How does Fat Boo compare to the SSJ2s and SSJ3s in the Boo Saga? With a 4x gap between both forms, there’s a lot of room for Boo, and his fight with SSJ3 Goku doesn’t make things clearer. Right in the middle between both forms is the lowest I’d go, it’s a good middle ground. I think I prefer him to...