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by Kaboom
Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 137
Views: 11593

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

All I'm gonna say is that I sincerely hope Daima ends up being genuinely good, because after how most modern stuff like Minus and Super turned out, I'd very much like for Toriyama's last big contribution to the franchise to be a high note. In the meantime, I'm trying to focus on fondly remembering t...
by Kaboom
Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:59 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Going to the Public Domain When!?
Replies: 3
Views: 606

Re: Dragon Ball Going to the Public Domain When!?

Yeah, let's not do this, thanks.
by Kaboom
Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Gohan in Movie 12 definitely wasn't his post-ritual Ultimate self. But Freeza in Movie 12 also definitely wasn't at 100% either.
by Kaboom
Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:36 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Freeza shouldn’t have been a transforming villain
Replies: 44
Views: 2028

Re: Freeza shouldn’t have been a transforming villain

I... partially agree, I guess? I think the story actually benefits from having Freeza able to freely transform for more power, with him being the primary setter of that particular trend (Zarbon being its herald) before it became overdone. But I do agree that having four separate forms was waaaay ove...
by Kaboom
Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 774
Views: 75068

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Although a criminally neglected character as far as GT representation goes is Rildo, like what the hell? There's so much you can do with him and he never makes the cut... I KNOW, RIGHT?! If they're using a nuclear-powered laser jackhammer to scrape the absolute bottom of the fecal-stained DBS barre...
by Kaboom
Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 774
Views: 75068

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

My thoughts are the same as before: I'm tired of Z, and Super can go burn in the flaming outhouse it came from. The fact that they made a trailer dedicated to Goku and Vegeta squaring off in their various forms, but DIDN'T include Super Saiyan 4 in that sequence, is both troubling and annoying. Show...
by Kaboom
Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:26 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Like I've said a few times already, there's certainly some things in the Boo arc that might imply the base Saiyans are stronger than the likes of Freeza, and we could all debate those points until the heat death of the universe... but there's nothing that actually plainly states or shows it. There i...
by Kaboom
Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:53 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, there's admittedly a handful of things in the Boo arc that can be taken to imply the base Saiyans are beyond the likes of Freeza, if one chooses to interpret them that way. But there's nothing that outright states or proves it, or that should outweigh a direct statement to the contrary like th...
by Kaboom
Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:53 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

But which basis did they have for believing Freeza was above base Saiyans without the Beerus' line? You'll have to ask Toriyama that, not me. Because he said he re-read the original manga either prior to or during his contribution to Battle of Gods , and then he proceeded to either write the "...
by Kaboom
Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:01 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

It's a disservice and has riled up a debate that was once dead. Now THAT'S wishful thinking. Plenty of people already proposed or were at least fine with the notion that the Boo-era base Saiyans weren't quite on Freeza's level yet, and it was no less reasonable than the opposite idea. The fairly di...
by Kaboom
Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

So we allegedly "know" stuff that isn't explicitly said and stems from fans' own lopsided "everything ever is a power statement" way of reading scenes. But then stuff that is explicitly told to us is "overstated" and "based on nothing" and "headcanon.&quo...
by Kaboom
Sat Jan 13, 2024 12:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
Replies: 51
Views: 4057

Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?

Power level crunch aside, is there any reason to think Cell is close to Gohan? A) Because we're explicitly told he is, in the Daizenshuu quote I mentioned before, just to get that bit out of the way. But also... B) Because in story-telling terms, that's... kind of the whole point of Cell's comeback...
by Kaboom
Thu Jan 11, 2024 11:29 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 2328
Views: 418419

Re: "Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot" Official Discussion Thread

I've got my fingers crossed for the DLC to cover either the original Z Broli movie or an arc from GT, ideally Baby. Either of those (or both, both would be good) would just be one more delicious middle finger to Super, on top of the prior pleasant surprise of the original Bardock special being adapt...
by Kaboom
Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: A rebuttal to the defense of the Zamasu arc ending
Replies: 19
Views: 1710

Re: A rebuttal to the defense of the Zamasu arc ending

This once-intriguing story arc's absolutely abysmal ending is the thing that made me finally, after cutting it way too much slack already, give up on and completely discount Dragon Ball Super. I did briefly peek back into the manga when the Moro arc seemed like it might turn out interesting, but suf...
by Kaboom
Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:20 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yeah, concluding that Beerus is saying that Goku somehow only surpasses Freeza when he specifically goes SS2 is really missing the forest for the trees. When one actually reads the page normally as a whole, rather than zooming in and trying to pick out power statements, it's pretty clear that Beerus...
by Kaboom
Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:44 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

We also shouldn't forget that Freeza's army of mooks averaged as so weak that even Muten Roshi and Jaco could take them, so by comparison both Piccolo and even base-form Gohan were holding back immensely to remain non-lethal (for whatever reason) . Freeza may be just able to intuitively tell that Go...
by Kaboom
Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

The bits with Gohan in Resurrection F are all kinds of weird. Piccolo is somehow struggling against someone said to be Zarbon-level, and Gohan steps in to save him, but still has to go Super Saiyan to do it. Toriyama's script, meanwhile, doesn't say anything beyond just "Gohan is strongest"...
by Kaboom
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Honestly it's just an impressive feat regardless of which power-up they would need to do it themselves.
by Kaboom
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:33 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Uh, no? When we put together everything we're actually told, the power chain adds up like this: Super Saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo > 100% Freeza > Base Saiyans ~ Kibito Kaioshin is weaker than the Super Saiyans : By his own admission in the manga. Kaioshin is stronger than Piccolo : Roundaboutly sta...
by Kaboom
Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:04 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12575
Views: 1585507

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

What's the evidence for Supreme Kai being weaker than the base saiyans? Mostly from people needlessly taking everything in the story as a power statement, and therefore interpreting Kaioshin's caution towards Pui-Pui and Yakon as him meaning "either of these guys could effortlessly slaughter m...