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by Hugo Boss
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30572
Views: 1512738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That's true. In the manga is said that if you have an higher power level you can counter/be immune to haxes Tell that to Moro. Moro absorbs energy, which raises his own battle power. And lowers the battle power of his foes. So, how exactly the superior battle power of the Saiyans guarantee their wi...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[...] GT surpassed Z Super Vegito a few episodes before SS4 appeared, and God is stronger than BoG Vegito's full power. SS4 = hypothetical Super Vegito/Gogeta from GT means SS4 is on par with a contemporary SS fusion, while SSG was stronger than at least a SS2 contemporary fusion so of course it st...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30572
Views: 1512738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

DBSuper doesn’t follow that RoF plot point of God-like base form. It went back to the linear Base-SS-SS2-SS3-SSGod-SSBlue evolution line.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[...] GT surpassed Z Super Vegito a few episodes before SS4 appeared, and God is stronger than BoG Vegito's full power. SS4 = hypothetical Super Vegito/Gogeta from GT means SS4 is on par with a contemporary SS fusion, while SSG was stronger than at least a SS2 contemporary fusion so of course it st...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30708
Views: 2126060

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The limitless potential thing is obviously a reference to the Saiyan’s trait of self-improvement over harsh conditions.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1320

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Accomplish what? Goku didn’t accomplish nothing. Preventing himself from being thrown off and then holding Jiren in place is an accomplishment. Goku only lasted a little bit more because Jiren felt like knocking Vegeta out first and Freeza took his attention later. If Freeza didn’t continue his att...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30572
Views: 1512738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro became stronger than Blue Goku/Vegeta after he absorbed Planet Zoom. So yes, Moro too is following Toriyama's continued battle power > all plot formula. If you are keeping up with the recent chapter you saw that Gohan was defeated by the 73 guy, who was weaker and absorbed his power, turning t...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I still don’t understand what you guys are talking about. DBGT comes after DBSuper and Fusion works exactly as Goku pointed out in the Majin Boo Arc in any situation. This “dozens of times” remark isn’t even a clear cut statement, just an attempt of description that is not supposed to be taken liter...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

There is nothing backing up SS4 Gogeta >> SS Gogeta from the Broly movie Goku and Vegeta have become that much weaker for what reason exactly? That’s like saying SS Goku from DBSuper being stronger than SS4 Goku from DBGT is feasible. :eh: huh? when did I say they got much weaker? SS4 is most likel...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Koitsukai wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:49 pm
There is nothing backing up SS4 Gogeta >> SS Gogeta from the Broly movie
Goku and Vegeta have become that much weaker for what reason exactly? That’s like saying SS Goku from DBSuper being stronger than SS4 Goku from DBGT is feasible. :eh:
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

To not say that in super and gt the fusions’ multiplier is different from one another. If Goku and Vegeta are stronger in DBGT, the Fusion multiplier would be far greater than if they do Fusion in DBSuper. Rakurai already clarified that “dozens of times” is a figure of speech that refers to a much ...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30572
Views: 1512738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

p-hyvo wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:38 pm
Hugo Boss wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:31 pm
DBSuper manga has been consistently burying this notion that battle power always wins fights that I don’t understand why some people still insist on it.
That's true. In the manga is said that if you have an higher power level you can counter/be immune to haxes
Tell that to Moro.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30572
Views: 1512738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

DBSuper manga has been consistently burying this notion that battle power always wins fights that I don’t understand why some people still insist on it.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

To not say that in super and gt the fusions’ multiplier is different from one another. If Goku and Vegeta are stronger in DBGT, the Fusion multiplier would be far greater than if they do Fusion in DBSuper. Rakurai already clarified that “dozens of times” is a figure of speech that refers to a much ...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11267
Views: 734173

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball GT would probably be stronger than SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball Super, so he might be able to rival Omega Shenron. Definitely not, no way. By scaling and feats, ssj gogeta dbs>ssj4 gogeta gt by a long shot. I mean, nobody in gt is even stronger than uio1 goku by feats. We a...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1320

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

theherodjl wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:47 am
And this feat is incredible for a Base Saiyan, that's the point. No mere base Saiyan from DBZ(save for maybe Vegetto/Gogeta) could accomplish this.

There's enough evidence here to form a rough conclusion but a conclusion nonetheless.
Accomplish what? Goku didn’t accomplish nothing.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1320

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

That’s totally your opinion though. You can’t claim that Jiren is stronger than X level from Namek Arc, since he fought weakened versions of Goku, Vegeta and Freeza as well. For all intents or purposes his level of drain could be that dramatic. Since the claim here is that Goku & Vegeta's bases are...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Broly mastering Super Saiyan
Replies: 14
Views: 337

Re: DBS Broly mastering Super Saiyan

It’s implied by Goku and Freeza that Broly will manage to control his power in the future. For some reason, Freeza believes that will come to his favor.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: DBS Broly mastering Super Saiyan
Replies: 14
Views: 337

Re: DBS Broly mastering Super Saiyan

I recall Toriyama once saying that Goku will one day realize he is better off training his Super Saiyan form. Toriyama used this plot point twice. 1) When Goku mastered Super Saiyan in the fight against Cell. 2) When Goku achieved Super Saiyan Blue. But both were abandoned regardless, when he intro...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1320

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

That’s totally your opinion though. You can’t claim that Jiren is stronger than X level from Namek Arc, since he fought weakened versions of Goku, Vegeta and Freeza as well. For all intents or purposes his level of drain could be that dramatic.