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by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku saw Beerus and Champa fight a bloody battle in the anime. I don’t recall that. I just saw a little squabbling. I just explained it, cause they weren't even introduced into the story as they came after So, a non-explanation is your answer. why would Akira have Goku say that line if it's for shi...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fisherman , you are mixing the movie continuity and the manga continuity. In the movies, Goku never saw Beerus fighting seriously, more like 70% of his power, as Whis said at the end of Battle of Gods. Do you think manga, anime and movie share the same continuity? Why? And you still haven’t provide...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35018
Views: 2717541

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I have the impression Goku doesn’t want to execute Moro as a Galatic Patrolman, but rather defeat him in a proper fight, as an Earthling warrior, making him lose consciousness or something like that. That’s how Goku does things.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fisherman , you are mixing the movie continuity and the manga continuity. In the movies, Goku never saw Beerus fighting seriously, more like 70% of his power, as Whis said at the end of Battle of Gods. Do you think manga, anime and movie share the same continuity? Why? And you still haven’t provide...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, in resume, it’s understandable that Toriyama’s ideas since Battle of Gods could have changed, but so far the story references that at some point Beerus and Goku will probably have an even fight, right? Right. In the manga continuity, which is where the Oracle fish reiterates that prophecy, Goku ...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

the oracle fish can't include characters that haven't been thought of yet. Why? He is just reinforcing the same prophecy that was told in the Battle of Gods story arc and, after that point, Golden Freeza and Goku Black appeared. Now Goku is completing Ultra Instinct. If this is the deadline, this i...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

your trying to argue that broly isn't apart of the project despite broly not existing at the time the statement was made. I’m not sure how that makes the point invalid. The more the story progress the stronger Goku and Vegeta will get, and it’s implied that at some point both will be equally matche...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

They even comment on Beerus having to use his full power, and by the end he was bruised, beaten and bloody. This is one of the rules of their test fight, but it doesn’t mean Beerus showed everything he got. Broly has been claimed in novel, guide and movie. So that's clearly false Last time Goku fou...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think you can work around Goku’s assessment of Broli and Beerus’ strength, because Goku doesn’t know how strong Beerus truly is (Beerus purposefully kept his true strength hidden from Goku). And there is that prophecy. So, between Goku and Oracle Fish, I think the latter is more reliable right no...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think you can work around Goku’s assessment of Broli and Beerus’ strength, because Goku doesn’t know how strong Beerus truly is (Beerus purposefully kept his true strength hidden from Goku). And there is that prophecy. So, between Goku and Oracle Fish, I think the latter is more reliable right now.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

My Dragon Ball Super powerlevel list: Grand Priest: 2,000 Whis: 1,500 Beerus: 1,000 Blue Gogeta [Broly]: 970 UI Goku: 970 UI Omen Goku: 900 Blue Goku [Broly]: 830 Blue Goku [ToP]: 820 Blue Goku [Zamasu]: 810 FPSS Broly: 960 SS Broly: 850 Iraki Broly: 800 Jiren [LB]: 970 Jiren: 950 Champa: 990 GoD To...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 442

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:55 pm
So is Piccolo Blue tier on the anime since he did this?
His attack was probably approaching the level of gods, since Gohan and the Namekians were at that level themselves.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 442

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

MechaTrunks wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:40 am
Ultra instincts Omen is Above SSJB2 Vegeta which is above SSJB Goku.
It was. SSBE is ahead now.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So here's a question -- how do others interpret Hit's pressure points style in the anime? Do they operate outside of power levels? Could Hit stop the heart of anyone if he wanted to or strike at some fatal region with success? I think there is a room for how much those attacks work on Dragon Ball. ...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 442

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

I don’t think those are fair comparisons. 1) Saganbo - Goku was just testing Ultra Instinct Sign. After that little skirmish, he concluded Super Saiyan Blue would be enough. 2) Moro - In his previous form, he easily blocked Super Saiyan Blue, while Ultra Instinct Sign was more or less even until Mor...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Trunks, Son Goten, & Gotenks Ever Master Super Saiyan?
Replies: 11
Views: 191

Re: Did Trunks, Son Goten, & Gotenks Ever Master Super Saiyan?

I would dispute that they are kinda level 4, actually? Based on how Goten and Trunks can exhibit calm and totally non-serious expressions while using Super Saiyan and that they have the ability to power-up in that form, like Goku does against Cell.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32585
Views: 1888895

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'm inclined to believe that 7-Moro-3's strength still can't surpass Anime's Jiren. I think this comparison is not fair, because there isn’t an anime version of Moro yet. So, we don’t know how it would work out. Anyway, Piccolo said something intrigue about Moro’s battle power in chapter 61, that i...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35018
Views: 2717541

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No absorbing 7-3, no unnecessary ass pull powers. What’s the problem with absorbing 73? Which ass pull powers? The fact that the moment Vegeta gave Moro trouble with his magic he just threw it away and took 7-3’s he hasn’t used his magic in a fighting sense in a long time, and now that Merus sealed...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35018
Views: 2717541

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

DiscountDabi wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:03 pm
No absorbing 7-3, no unnecessary ass pull powers.
What’s the problem with absorbing 73? Which ass pull powers?
by Hugo Boss
Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35018
Views: 2717541

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don’t see what is so baffling about Moro abilities. It was always hinted that 73 and the other prisoners would be useful for him, if it happened that his current strength wasn’t enough. Just shows how much he has thought up during his long lockdown.