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- Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:35 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 29
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Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, when characters assume someone is impressive and it turning up differently, even the most reliable ones like Piccolo, Vegeta etc. Same way in the opposite. This is usually overlooked when people crop panels instead of reading the content in its whole. Interestin...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:02 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Based purely on what chapter #103 conveys, Goku and Gohan are pretty much rivals when they fight at full strength, being advertised as the strongest vs. strongest, so it’s not really surprising their match ended undecided. Having said that, Gohan fought Broly and Vegeta after consuming some stamina,...
- Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:23 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than a Super Saiyan 2?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 173
Re: Legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than a Super Saiyan 2?
The mini-guide in question only establishes where there is a branch in the Saiyan evolution line without particularly suggesting a powerscalling comparison between them.
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:15 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Toriyama never said a form so that makes it a general power statement which means it's Goku at his max. It doesn't make sense otherwise. I’m not suggesting otherwise… It’s only that it obviously doesn’t carry on forever, since ranks are always changing. By the way, Goku being interested in fighting...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:00 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Toriyama didn’t exactly frame which version and from which story arc he thinks Orange Piccolo rivals Goku. He just speaks broadly about Goku and co . For context, this information came in June 2022 , same month that chapter #85 was released, when Goku figured out UI Sign was the best form when his h...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:34 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Well, considering how his fight against Gohan played out, I think it’s unlikely that Piccolo would rival Goku anyway. This only reinforces that Toriyama was talking about a version of Goku from the past. His best showing before fighting Gohan was against Gas, and right before the Super Hero chapter...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:51 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
That would depend on which version of Goku that Toriyama was talking about. Probably not the Goku that we saw on chapters #102 and #103. Maybe the UI Sign version from his fight against Gas? That doesn't work. If Piccolo is as strong as UI Sign then he really doesn't rival Goku. Well, considering h...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
That would depend on which version of Goku that Toriyama was talking about. Probably not the Goku that we saw on chapters #102 and #103. Maybe the UI Sign version from his fight against Gas?ZombieVito wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:08 pm If Piccolo is as strong as UI Sign or Evolution then he doesn't rival Goku like Toriyama said.
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:04 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 110
- Views: 8100
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
I don’t think that was intended though. It’s just Goku forgetting who is Pan, as he had to be reminded (:facepalm:). I can understand the reason behind it, since Goku has that character, I only wouldn’t imagine to such extent, granted he fixes that afterwards, and I had a feeling Toriyama was respon...
- Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:48 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 110
- Views: 8100
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Despite some loose ends, I think this chapter gave a decent closure to the Super Hero theme, presenting a good amount of potential super heroes that could rival the gods (nice observation, Beerus-sama). There was a clear build-up for Broly, and, as predicted, not that Goku and Vegeta were unfit for ...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:28 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1377
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Goku doesn’t say ”they can beat him” and then turn around and say he’s unsure. That’s not what was happening. He said, once the boys master fusion there’s no way they can lose. He never went back on his statement that SSJ Gotenks would be enough. The anime spun it a little and Piccolo implies that ...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:12 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1377
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
The two days of training were not even supposed to be used to get stronger, Goku was only referring to perfecting the technique. Anyway, Goku was guessing how strong they would get when fusing, but he didn’t have background knowledge to state anything concrete. Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, w...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:33 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1377
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
So worst case, SSJ Gotenks was stronger than Fat boo after ROSAT training but it didn’t matter by that time because Super Boo was already born. Unlikely. There is nothing suggesting SS Gotenks was enough for the task, specially when he needed SS3 to start fighting Super Boo on equal terms. Pretty s...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:06 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1377
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
I don’t see why the entry can’t refer to Base Gotenks. Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate. SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier. Because it’s part of a character profile ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:38 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Not to mention chapter #103 wasn’t even released yet, so it’s very difficult to have a clear assessment without full context. Anyway, Toriyama had conflicting opinions on how strong Beerus was all the way from Battle of Gods until Super Hero. 2013: 1,66x SSG Goku 2015: 2x SSB Goku 2017: a hair behin...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:13 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 110
- Views: 8100
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Let’s not forget the drafts only showed a portion of the fight and could be deceiving. The outcome of the match is not defined.
My gut is telling me we will see something similar (or slightly different) from when Goku fought Roshi in the 21th martial arts tournament.
My gut is telling me we will see something similar (or slightly different) from when Goku fought Roshi in the 21th martial arts tournament.
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:59 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Also, when Vegeta was fighting Granolah as well. The destructive sphere even makes a huge explosion when Granolah pushes it back to Vegeta.
- Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:29 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
While I’m not entirely convinced (movie) Beerus was only quite as strong as Goku and Vegeta fighting as a team, more like close to Broly at full power, I can see why Gohan and Cell Max would be up there with this reasoning, but why Piccolo? Is he that much stronger than Goku and Vegeta even fighting...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:22 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
- Replies: 349
- Views: 18606
Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Unbelievable. I hope his family finds peace, whatever was the cause. This is a huge loss for our community. A legendary worker and artist. We will forever miss you. Dragon Ball will never be the same
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:21 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39831
- Views: 3837562
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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