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by Hugo Boss
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 23
Views: 1106

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

Goku doesn’t say ”they can beat him” and then turn around and say he’s unsure. That’s not what was happening. He said, once the boys master fusion there’s no way they can lose. He never went back on his statement that SSJ Gotenks would be enough. The anime spun it a little and Piccolo implies that ...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 23
Views: 1106

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

The two days of training were not even supposed to be used to get stronger, Goku was only referring to perfecting the technique. Anyway, Goku was guessing how strong they would get when fusing, but he didn’t have background knowledge to state anything concrete. Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, w...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 23
Views: 1106

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

So worst case, SSJ Gotenks was stronger than Fat boo after ROSAT training but it didn’t matter by that time because Super Boo was already born. Unlikely. There is nothing suggesting SS Gotenks was enough for the task, specially when he needed SS3 to start fighting Super Boo on equal terms. Pretty s...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Replies: 23
Views: 1106

Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta

I don’t see why the entry can’t refer to Base Gotenks. Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate. SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier. Because it’s part of a character profile ...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Not to mention chapter #103 wasn’t even released yet, so it’s very difficult to have a clear assessment without full context. Anyway, Toriyama had conflicting opinions on how strong Beerus was all the way from Battle of Gods until Super Hero. 2013: 1,66x SSG Goku 2015: 2x SSB Goku 2017: a hair behin...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 16
Views: 3365

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

Let’s not forget the drafts only showed a portion of the fight and could be deceiving. The outcome of the match is not defined.

My gut is telling me we will see something similar (or slightly different) from when Goku fought Roshi in the 21th martial arts tournament.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Also, when Vegeta was fighting Granolah as well. The destructive sphere even makes a huge explosion when Granolah pushes it back to Vegeta.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

While I’m not entirely convinced (movie) Beerus was only quite as strong as Goku and Vegeta fighting as a team, more like close to Broly at full power, I can see why Gohan and Cell Max would be up there with this reasoning, but why Piccolo? Is he that much stronger than Goku and Vegeta even fighting...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:22 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 321
Views: 16392

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

Unbelievable. I hope his family finds peace, whatever was the cause. This is a huge loss for our community. A legendary worker and artist. We will forever miss you. Dragon Ball will never be the same :(
by Hugo Boss
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Possible reasons: - Lack of certain reading comprehension skills: 1. Identifying key details, facts, and main ideas. 2. Making logical deductions and inferences based on the information provided in the text. 3. Questioning the author’s perspective, analyzing and evaluating the text, including its ar...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Chapter is out and, according to Viz’s translation, Beerus doesn’t exactly frame the silver-haired ultra instinct as Goku’s best technique. He just talks about it generally. Not that it changes the current state of things, but I think it’s worth pointing out. He does. He does what? Herms said exact...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Chapter is out and, according to Viz’s translation, Beerus doesn’t exactly frame the silver-haired ultra instinct as Goku’s best technique. He just talks about it generally. Not that it changes the current state of things, but I think it’s worth pointing out. By the way, I’m under impression that B...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku blocks 73-Moro attacks multiple times, despite being totally able to dodge those attacks. That goes to show that Goku blocking Gohan’s attacks doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of dodging them. That's where it becomes an outlier, it is literally stated to dodge by instinct, therefor it should be d...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20094

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

One thing I find interesting about this chapter is that this is the first time since Battle of Gods that 6 Saiyans from Universe #7 have reunited. Now anyone of them could perform the Super Saiyan God ritual if they want.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku blocks 73-Moro attacks multiple times, despite being totally able to dodge those attacks. That goes to show that Goku blocking Gohan’s attacks doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of dodging them.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But yeah the people who kept claiming Gohan Beast was weaker than Moro Arc SSB and current SSB are awfullllllly quiet right now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This was a thing? :eh: From what I’ve seen the most common assumption around here is that Gohan was relative to SSB in Ultimate and to Ultra Instin...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I will wait until the official release to draw any hard conclusion, but so far Ultra Instinct (silver) is stronger than Ultra Instinct (black) when Goku’s heart is 100% calm. When it’s not the power levels are flipped.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it’s likely that Goku and Vegeta have surpassed Zombie Gas, but I’m not entirely certain about it myself. Maybe this month chapter will shed some light on the subject. About Broly having a zenkai, not likely, since he didn’t underwent the same kind of experience that warranted such power-ups...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828604

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In my viewpoint, this line only reinforces that Ultra Ego is, in fact, a suitable way to keep ever increasing battle power, but as Vegeta’s fight suggests, in practice, the technique has a limit and Vegeta might have to figure out the best way to make it work out for him, like Goku is doing with Ult...