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by Pantalones
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can cell turn ssj?
Replies: 6
Views: 665

Re: Can cell turn ssj?

I've always seen Cell's gold-aura state as being his equivalent to Super Saiyan, yeah. I mean, think about it... he has all the best parts of the species he's made up of. Even though Dr. Gero doesn't know about Super Saiyan, that doesn't rule it out -- it wasn't Gero himself who completed Cell, but ...
by Pantalones
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Yamoshi killed by a demon?
Replies: 8
Views: 847

Re: Was Yamoshi killed by a demon?

Crazy, I know, given that we have no indication that Saiyans can split themselves into good and evil halves like Namekians, but it's at least an interesting idea in my opinion. It doesn't seem like what happened with Kami and Piccolo Daimao was specifically a Namekian ability, considering that when...
by Pantalones
Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong was Goku REALLY at the start of Dragonball?
Replies: 12
Views: 896

Re: How strong was Goku REALLY at the start of Dragonball?

Personally, I always saw beginning-of-Dragonball Goku as having something more like a power level of 25. Of course, power levels weren't a thing in the original Dragonball and all of the levels listed for characters back then were added after the fact, so you kind of have to expect them to be a litt...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong would fourth transformation King Cold be?
Replies: 16
Views: 1673

Re: How strong would fourth transformation King Cold be?

I like to think that there was a reason why Cold told Freeza to only avoid Buu and Beerus while not mentioning Dabura and Shin (out of universe reasons aside). Perhaps a final form Cold (if he can transform) would be within that power range I figure he just wouldn't know about Dabura in the first p...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?
Replies: 344
Views: 53704

Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

Another really dumb theory that was mostly popular with the yaoi crowds was that saiyans reproduce homosexually :lol: Oh man, I actually remember stumbling across some people (on a Pokémon forum, of all places) talking about this waaay back in the day when I wasn't even into DBZ yet. Apparently the...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I have 2 questions
Replies: 7
Views: 788

Re: I have 2 questions

If Goku had used a thirty-times Kaio-ken to power his Kamehameha against Freeza instead of just twenty, Freeza would be seriously injured. The highest level of power Freeza seems to be able to use without going through the longer, straining process of bulking up to "100% mode" is 70%... and a 30x Ka...
by Pantalones
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35420
Views: 1842835

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

2. Present Zamasu vs SSJ3 Goku (RoF) Didn't the present Zamasu fight SSj 2 Goku, coming across as being at least a little weaker than he was? I can't imagine Goku would've randomly gotten four times stronger between Resurrection F and the time he met Zamasu, so I'd say SSj3 Goku completely flattens...
by Pantalones
Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35420
Views: 1842835

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Who's the strongest character 20x Kaioken Piccolo (Boo arc) could beat? Piccolo was not far off from Vegeta or Trunks at the Cell Games, and should be even stronger by the Buu saga considering that he pretty much never stops training (though he wouldn't be getting enormous gains now like he did bef...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Old Broly vs Super Vegetto
Replies: 104
Views: 7021

Re: Old Broly vs Super Vegetto

In another hand, questioning Koyama’s knowledge about DBZ movies is like questioning Aya Matsui’s about DBGT or even Toriyama’s about the original manga . You realize you're talking about Akira "so who's Tao Pai Pai again? didn't #18 have purple hair?" Toriyama, right...? So... yeah, you totally ca...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong would fourth transformation King Cold be?
Replies: 16
Views: 1673

Re: How strong would fourth transformation King Cold be?

Well, the King Cold we see was described as being a bit stronger than the level of power they were sensing from Freeza, or at least in the same range. Of course, this was Freeza when he was probably heavily suppressed (maybe 3,000,000ish like when he first fought Goku on Namek?), not the level he po...
by Pantalones
Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What if the Androids or Buu learned the Shin Kikoho?
Replies: 2
Views: 494

Re: What if the Androids or Buu learned the Shin Kikoho?

Hmm... not sure if it was a dub-only thing or what, but wasn't the Kikoho mentioned as draining the user's life or shortening their lifespan, rather than merely depleting one's stamina like SSj3 or Golden Freeza do? It doesn't just make you tired (drain your physical or ki energy reserves), it actua...
by Pantalones
Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 3705
Views: 303155

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

So, here's something that's been bugging me. Why does Vegeta share the same name as his father? More importantly, if his father was named Vegeta, shouldn't that make him Vegeta Jr.? Back when the king was still alive, they were probably differentiated as "King Vegeta" and "Prince Vegeta." It's enti...
by Pantalones
Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can og broly kill fat Buu?
Replies: 11
Views: 666

Re: Can og broly kill fat Buu?

He'd be able to pull it off if he randomly pulled Super Saiyan 3 out of his ass. Otherwise... no way. Even after his near-death boost following the first movie, Broly loses to any form of Buu. At best, he'd manage to blow Buu up with a huge blast like Vegeta did with his self-destructing move, so he...
by Pantalones
Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Goku Be Able To Still Use All Of His Techniques & Transformations If His Mind Was Sent Back To His Early DB Body?
Replies: 16
Views: 1163

Re: Would Goku Be Able To Still Use All Of His Techniques & Transformations If His Mind Was Sent Back To His Early DB Bo

Kaio-Ken for me still might work with the correct training because that's much more about training the body than it is about reaching a minimum Power Level. Yeah, I suppose for Kaio-ken it's not so much "you need this much strength to use this level" so much as "someone who reaches this level of st...
by Pantalones
Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35420
Views: 1842835

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. SSG Goku from BoG is stronger than anything from GT. (Was stated/implied to be universe busting. Nothing in GT is that strong) . We just don't really get feats in GT. By scaling, SSJ4 Goku should be about on par if not stronger, because all we know about SSG Goku is that he is stronger than SSJ3...
by Pantalones
Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fighting maneuvers in Dragonball make no sense
Replies: 37
Views: 2355

Re: Fighting maneuvers in Dragonball make no sense

If the finger was only there for a nanosecond it wouldn't be able to stop all of the punch's momentum. Beerus's finger was only on Goku's face for a nanosecond and it sent him flying all the way around North Kaio's planet... The amount of force required to stop the momentum of a single punch can't ...
by Pantalones
Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Goku Be Able To Still Use All Of His Techniques & Transformations If His Mind Was Sent Back To His Early DB Body?
Replies: 16
Views: 1163

Re: Would Goku Be Able To Still Use All Of His Techniques & Transformations If His Mind Was Sent Back To His Early DB Bo

Well, obviously any Super Saiyan form would be off the table since he wouldn't have enough S-cells or a high enough power level to activate it -- even in situations where the rage was there to trigger it, he just wouldn't meet the other qualifications. As for actual techniques... Kaio-ken, almost de...
by Pantalones
Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: things that grind your gears
Replies: 3857
Views: 260600

Re: Things that grind your gears

I hate how Funimation uses "Omni-King". It is correct but I cannot get over the thought that they most likely used that because it was used by the fandom for such a long time already - because of Herms. Herms is a great guy. But he is the fan's translator. His translations should not affect what Fu...
by Pantalones
Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35420
Views: 1842835

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

M12 SSJ Gogeta vs M10 Broly How in the world is this even a fight!? Gogeta was vastly stronger than SSj3 Goku and destroyed Janemba (who was beating SSj3 Goku like... well, like Broly was beating Gohan!) effortlessly. He's by far the strongest character to appear in a DBZ movie until Battle of Gods...
by Pantalones
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If Kuririn had used solar flare and kienzan combo to cut frieza in half
Replies: 6
Views: 764

Re: If Kuririn had used solar flare and kienzan combo to cut frieza in half

I think if Krillin had cut him horizontally (like Freeza accidentally did to himself) then he'd probably still be a serious threat afterward and most likely would've killed everyone except Goku, who'd probably be able to beat that disabled Freeza with the Kaio-ken and would definitely crush him if h...