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by Pantalones
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Super Saiyan 4 Transformation Requirements
Replies: 44
Views: 2238

Re: Super Saiyan 4 Transformation Requirements

I'm unsure about this. I'm thinking a strong enough Saiyan might turn into a Golden Ozaru even if they never transformed before in Super Saiyan. After all, Super Saiyan is a transformation of Rage, and uncontrolled Ozarus are nothing but raging monsters. I figure this could work for a Saiyan who al...
by Pantalones
Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why wasn't Kid Buu able to overcome the genki dama?
Replies: 9
Views: 712

Re: Why wasn't Kid Buu able to overcome the genki dama?

The attack was already 90% of the way to hitting Buu before he caught it. Buu was only able to catch it in the first place because Goku's power was already depleted (due to only being in his base form without enough strength left to go beyond that thanks to SSj3's energy drain.) The "push" on Goku's...
by Pantalones
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3172
Views: 216967

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Even though he would definitely be the weakest fighter on Team 7, What if Jaco competed in the Tournament of Power? Would he have been of good use of the team and eliminated a couple of fighters, or would he just be too weak to the point that he'd be the first person to get eliminated? I don't thin...
by Pantalones
Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So how did the cell juniors survive?
Replies: 20
Views: 1721

Re: So how did the cell juniors survive?

Wait, they survived? What?
In the Super manga, we see the Cell Juniors living in the wildlife preserve island that Android 17 watches over. Apparently #17 has trained them to go after people who aren't supposed to be there (like poachers and such) and not to kill anyone.
by Pantalones
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3172
Views: 216967

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

What version of a fictional Earth do you think is in the Universe 6 of the Dragon Ball Super Anime and Manga Timelines? Do you think the Planet Earth of Universe 6 belongs to yet another legendary hit series from Japan like Yu-Gi-Oh! or Pokémon? The 6th Universe Earth apparently was ruined and depo...
by Pantalones
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So how did the cell juniors survive?
Replies: 20
Views: 1721

Re: So how did the cell juniors survive?

Well, when Gohan killed the Cell Juniors, he just punched/kicked them to bits rather than blasting them. You see chunks go flying, so they're not completely destroyed the way Cell was when Gohan's Kamehameha finally overpowered him. So presumably they survived because the important bit they need to ...
by Pantalones
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The case of Tenshinhan origin ???
Replies: 5
Views: 394

Re: The case of Tenshinhan origin ???

There was also the comment in one of the guides that mentioned that he was a descendant of the "Three-Eyed Tribe," who were humans who interbred with some three-eyed alien species at some point in the past, and his ability to sprout extra arms is something he inherited from them (in addition to the ...
by Pantalones
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34649
Views: 1511175

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Can two cell juniors fused together fight Super Buu evenly?
Unless the fused Cell Junior trains for a month and figures out how to unlock a SSj3-like transformation, I don't think they'd be able to do much against Super Buu.

Just like Goten and Trunks!
by Pantalones
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Human Characters Develop A "Super Human/Super Human God" Transformation Like Yamoshi Did For The Saiyans?
Replies: 21
Views: 1286

Re: Could The Human Characters Develop A "Super Human/Super Human God" Transformation Like Yamoshi Did For The Saiyans?

While the way Heroes used the red-eyed form to Namekuseijins implies it is their "god-level transformation", that is not its true purpose at all. They just came to know about the red-eyed form and since they were evolving the avatars (Saiyans in that occasions were getting Super Saiyan God), they t...
by Pantalones
Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Human Characters Develop A "Super Human/Super Human God" Transformation Like Yamoshi Did For The Saiyans?
Replies: 21
Views: 1286

Re: Could The Human Characters Develop A "Super Human/Super Human God" Transformation Like Yamoshi Did For The Saiyans?

Does the God transformation even relate to S-cells? I would assume Super Saiyan Blue definitely does since it's a combination SSj/God form, but the red God transformation seems like something on a completely different line from the regular Super Saiyan forms, and maybe even something that other race...
by Pantalones
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3172
Views: 216967

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Who would make the perfect secret boss if the metaseries was turned into a video game? With one appearing for Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Super each? DB -- Mutaito pulling a "come back to Earth for one day after dying" thing like Grandpa Gohan and later Goku did... o...
by Pantalones
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 12229
Views: 659395

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

17 and 18 were NOT weaker in Trunks time line, they hold back against Gohan at first, so they wouldn't kill him too quickly: During last ight with Gohan Gohan "I've been training, now it's your turn" #17 "Our turn? Sorry to say that, during our last fight, i haven't been using even half of my power...
by Pantalones
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How powerful was Salza, Neiz, and Dore really?
Replies: 8
Views: 550

Re: How powerful was Salza, Neiz, and Dore really?

Yeah, it's a case of wacky "official" power levels. The levels given for them really can't work at all if you assume the movie comes after the Freeza saga as we know it and everyone is on the same level they would've been after returning home from Namek -- so you have to either write off their power...
by Pantalones
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How powerful was Gohan at his peak, without being enraged, in Namek?
Replies: 12
Views: 726

Re: How powerful was Gohan at his peak, without being enraged, in Namek?

Oh, he definitely got strong enough to wipe out the Ginyu Force. Krillin hit the 75,000 mark by the end of his time on Namek, which would've been more than enough to handle everybody but the Captain himself. We know Gohan was a little stronger than Krillin the moment their potentials were unlocked, ...
by Pantalones
Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Interesting or funny pictures thread
Replies: 8843
Views: 809274

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

That Yamchao/Chiaocha/Yamtzu? actually looks pretty neat. Sort of has this old kung-fu master look to him with the long hair and bald on top -- like he's past the "entering tournaments and fighting demons" age, technically retired but not old enough to become a gray-haired wrinkly geezer just yet, s...
by Pantalones
Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would cell have beaten Gohan if he trained in the ten days?
Replies: 5
Views: 376

Re: Would cell have beaten Gohan if he trained in the ten days?

If he did some crazy method of training (very high gravity or maybe some sort of wacky out-in-space training since, just like Freeza, he doesn't need air to survive) he probably would get noticeably stronger in the ten days, but not enough to overpower SSj2 Gohan. The gap between them was insanely h...
by Pantalones
Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Powerful Do You Think Majin Gohan Would Have Been?
Replies: 6
Views: 404

Re: How Powerful Do You Think Majin Gohan Would Have Been?

Babidi's magic doesn't unlock power "way, waaay beyond your limits" the way the old Kaioshin's ritual does, so he'd be weaker than Ultimate/Mystic Gohan for sure. Beyond that it's hard to say. He'd at least be brought back to the level of strength he had as a raging SSJ2 kid at the Cell Games, and c...
by Pantalones
Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the multiplier for Mastered Super Saiyan?
Replies: 11
Views: 1167

Re: What is the multiplier for Mastered Super Saiyan?

Goku never talks about it as a different form, only in terms of getting used to "regular Super Saiyan" rather than using the straining, slowdown-inducing bulked-up forms that Vegeta and Trunks were concentrating their training on. Though Goku and Gohan did get a lot stronger through the process of m...
by Pantalones
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Small SSj multi for fusion characters in the manga?
Replies: 4
Views: 342

Re: Small SSj multi for fusion characters in the manga?

I always figured base Gotenks was just weaker than SSj2 Vegeta, and his attempt at a fight with Buu without transforming was more of a joke than anything else (didn't the manga literally just have one panel of him flying off to fight Buu, then immediately coming back looking all beat-up with cartoon...
by Pantalones
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can A Saiyan/Non-Saiyan Fusion Still Use SSJ?
Replies: 8
Views: 457

Re: Can A Saiyan/Non-Saiyan Fusion Still Use SSJ?

Someone who's a half-Saiyan by birth can still go Super Saiyan, so I can't see any reason why a half-Saiyan created by fusion wouldn't be able to do it too. Even though the "human half" of the fusion wouldn't know how right away, the fusion would probably gain the benefits of being a tailless half-S...