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by Dragon Wukong
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I agree with the whole post, it’s a great analysis of the arc in the manga. But I disagree with this take. Kame Sennin already taught everything he could to Goku by the time he was killed by Piccolo, and Goku had already surpassed him. If he couldn’t have been revived that wouldn’t have made Goku i...
by Dragon Wukong
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Good post. To further underline your quoted point, Jiren eliminates Roshi and then taunts Goku for not having perfected himself because his master still had lessons to teach him. Goku responds by saying he never sought perfection in the first place. Then, the story demonstrates that Jiren was actua...
by Dragon Wukong
Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

jiren if he had development because he was the antagonist Toppo can't even I remember what he did outside of looking pathetic during the final part in addition to his off panel fight. Kale suffers from the problem of Jiren is just power and nothing else she learns nothing and achieves nothing cauli...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

And yet, Kefla's battle with Gohan was completely rushed. Might as well not even have her if she was going to be treated like that. While I can agree that part felt rushed, as an extension of Kale's and Caulifla's performance, which took about 2 whole chapters on their own, and as an excuse to get ...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?
Replies: 65
Views: 1096

Re: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?

Mind you, it could just be that god-tiers aren't necessarily that physically strong. You also have Kale in the manga (who was able to toss around Golden Frieza) briefly struggling to pick up Magetta. Granted she immediately holds him up with a single hand and tosses him out the ring, it's still trea...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?
Replies: 65
Views: 1096

Re: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?

Because Magetta used his own power/energy/force to make it harder for Vegeta to lift. Easy answer that makes the most sense. Even a light weighted person can make himself heavier for others to lift through using effort/ki. Well, it is pretty implicit that it's not Magetta doing anything. Based on e...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?
Replies: 65
Views: 1096

Re: Why Did Vegeta Fail To Lift Magetta?

What Koitsukai said. The implication after the Res F seems to be that their Super Saiyan forms are in the same realm of power as they had been in the past. With minor examples of Toei scaling (like Vegeta knocking out SS3 Gotenks in one attack) just being a thing because it's the same as the Z anime...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Oof, yeah no. Having 4 universes get erased in a single chapter is awful. The main/important universes in the tournament were U6 and U11. The important fighters from U2/U4 (Ribrianne and Damon) also had their own chapter, not to mention Frost's decimation of U9 had plenty of coverage for the most p...
by Dragon Wukong
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The pacing is completely different from how it used to be, and I doubt it’s because Toyotaro suddenly forgot how to pace his manga. You say this but then the manga ToP arc exists. :sick: Manga's ToP had fine pacing overall. It still focused on only the main issues, and wrapped up before it became a...
by Dragon Wukong
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:09 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I 100% agree with what you say. Not liking the decision the author has taken is one thing, there being a contradiction in the manga a very different one. Furthermore, it's implied in the manga that fused Zamatsu's immortality wasn't 100% full until both Zamatsu's fused at a celular level (which is ...
by Dragon Wukong
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

But he can feel pain. This has been shown in both anime and manga. If you are immortal and get reduced to dust, between that and the time it takes to regenerate you should still feel yourself there since you aren't dead. Your being still "exists". For Zamasu to feel the need to use Mai then he woul...
by Dragon Wukong
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

An immortal being should feel when he's dying so him grabbing Mai tells me it was working. Zamasu hates mortals with all his soul and even commented that using one as a shield was a disgrace. He wouldn't do that unless he felt it was completely necessary. Also before that he got his chest blown off...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Zamasu needed to use a mortal as a shield. It was definitely working. He used a mortal as a shield because he himself didn't know if he could regenerate from it. The fact he felt fear and tried to stop Goku isn't assurance that the technique itself would have worked. He himself doesn't know the lim...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That Hakai shit was so stupid. It was clearly working on Zamasu but then Beerus confirms it doesn't kill immortals a chapter later. Classic inconsistent writing of Toyo. It's not an inconsistency. Zamasu would've been reduced to dust but he would've just regenerated after. But Zamasu himself and Go...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

And yet, for some reason, when not much contradicts this, MUI has to be a significant boost of power (in whichever continuity it needs to be), or Moro needs to be like way above Jiren in the Manga... I don't deny the fact that even with massive differences people can still contend though. But in de...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Last: a 30% difference is enough to utter dominate an opponent. People think that it's apparently not enough. We must take into account however that the instance of Jiren, is the only one in which there is a bigger difference amongst characters. But it was under very special conditions. Honestly 30...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:12 am
I always saw it as Goku unlonking more power of UI until he reaches it's max and turns Silver.
Sure, but that still means UI is "stronger" than Sign in that continuity.
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

This chapter made me worried the arc won’t be adapted. Moro stabbing Goku is a pretty big fucking deal and an important part of the story. And Moro’s stab is basically one of his signature moves. But I am afraid the anime wouldn’t be allowed to show any of the stabbing scenes, except for the one on...
by Dragon Wukong
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:47 pm
It can also be applied to the anime. I used something similar now that I think about it.
I wouldn't say it necessarily. It seems much more clear in the anime that as Goku achives Ultra Instinct he's much stronger than he was in Sign.
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587573

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Kagari wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:59 pm
Goku gave Cell the senzu because he believed in his son's power so much, to taunt Cell. He knew Gohan needed to realize his hidden power in order to beat Cell and that would only happen if Cell was confident and at full power himself.
It never really came across as a taunt to Cell honestly.