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by Dragon Wukong
Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:30 pm
Omen = UI in power is a nice idea.

When did they have that conversation?
Talking about the conversations in chapters 59/60.

Of course if this were the case I'd only apply it to the manga.
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: So is this whole Moro arc basically the, "Garlic Jr. saga" of Super?
Replies: 48
Views: 1580

Re: So is this whole Moro arc basically the, "Garlic Jr. saga" of Super?

It certainly feels like filler. To borrow someone's words, "filler's associated definition is whether or not the show is doing something in which the audience is invested in." To me there is nothing that makes me invested in the arc. There were some spots early on that I liked, but then turned into...
by Dragon Wukong
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's always the same song and dance with Beerus and his power. Statements and comparisons alluding to his true power keep being made and yet he continues to prove he's far beyond those statements, mainly because plot and because they seem to continue to want him to be the measuring stick. Broly, Ji...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We don't know how 7.3's copying ability used to work against weaker enemies, we know he grabs a stronger opponent and becomes just as strong and able to do everything they do, but if he were to grab Roshi, would he have his weak kicks and punches too, becoming weaker for 30 minutes? or would he kee...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How current Omen compares to previous UI is irrelevant tbh We just got our first legit hint of where Moro stands. He's implied to be absurdly more powerful than Broly, Beerus and Jiren IMO it's more dependent on where Merus stands between Beerus and Whis. If Merus was closer to Whis, he's by far th...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Was Jiren stated to transcend the God's as well or just Belmod? If so UI(Silver) was able to contend with someone on that level... To the point where Jiren was left with a miniscule amount of energy after, even the base Saiyan's could fight him after. UI Omen from this arc could fight against some ...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

My current assumption has been, based on the description Merus and Whis gave of Sign anyhow, is that UI Sign is possibly equivalent to UI itself in terms of strength, but difficult to maintain and use properly. If that is the case, then Goku himself getting stronger would mean that he was stronger i...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:15 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15400
Views: 1580591

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 am
Dragonball wiki before Broly had it. They changed it to him using Super Full power Saiyan 4.

Saiyan scholar also mentioned it in his Drsgonball GT power analysis.
I thought you were referring to the new version of the form with the red hair. Yeah that's true.
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fusion was always > UI, fact that Goku relies on UI first rather then fusion shows that fusion is always their last option While I've always assumed it to be the case, the story has never been explicit about that being true. Jiren/Beerus/Broly/Gogeta/UIku have all been on distinctly vague tiers rel...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15400
Views: 1580591

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 pm
Goku apprantly uses SS4 Full power againts Baby.
Got a source on that?
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587572

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, the implication very much seems to be that only the two other abilities Seven-Three had copied at the time became a part of Moro's default moveset. That would leave Piccolo and Gohan's abilities.

I assume Vegeta's current skillset is on the usual 30 minute timer.
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

> Spirit fission only works when damage is dealt > Potara/Dance is useless Moro73 > current Gogeta/Vegetto? The implication very much seems to be that Gogeta/Vegito (or some other fusion involving Goku) would be enough to defeat Moro with pure strength, but now that he has Vegeta's Spirit Fission t...
by Dragon Wukong
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

> Spirit fission only works when damage is dealt > Potara/Dance is useless Moro73 > current Gogeta/Vegetto? The implication very much seems to be that Gogeta/Vegito (or some other fusion involving Goku) would be enough to defeat Moro with pure strength, but now that he has Vegeta's Spirit Fission t...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think anymore of this Vegeta vs Goku discussion would just be going in circles repeating the same points. Everyone's already made their stance clear and doesn't seem like anyone's willing to budge. It'll probably be a long-running issue if anyone wants to compare Goku or Vegeta's strength to anyo...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Toriyama's Dragon Ball Super ideas
Replies: 51
Views: 1350

Re: Toriyama's Dragon Ball Super ideas

Could you link me those interviews? That'd be great, thanks. Honestly, I'm unsure what to think at this point, I mean, SSGSS replacing Super Saiyan seems really strong, almost too strong. I'm just going by what the guide says, I wish Toriyama would come out and tell us what the original plan was, t...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You are not understanding the problem. You are trying to piece together instances as comparisons between Goku and Vegeta when the story does no such thing. That's why it freely states that Goku needs to surpass Vegeta. If the story was comparing Goku and Vegeta's attacks against Moro, like you clai...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Keep in mind Moro also said he took in all the powers Seven-Three had absorbed at the time. That could also include Gohan's strength.
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Anyone can say with confidence that Vegeta is stronger than Goku unequivocally. But we have at least 3 or 4 dudes in here pointing out that you can't. Even the ones that agree with you. Since it is outright stated that Goku needs to surpass Vegeta. Which I've shown is up to interpretation. There is...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32289
Views: 1807321

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

According to the new chapter, Vegeta must inflict damage on the enemy for the technique to work https://scontent.fssa3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/113486254_2152912881519543_3700198515582594730_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_eui2=AeGSDdBCLBJeWU_heceuOu8fkL4--T4BYSeQvj75PgFhJ4b3M783C76I6u8TNqL-Vf...
by Dragon Wukong
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33952
Views: 2587572

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Xeogran wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:04 am
It's kinda weird that Whis was able to do that even in not-his-own Universe and it still didn't violate any rules.
I presume it's under the condition that Beerus gives the OK and he's not acting directly.