Search found 217 matches

by kuartus4
Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

How did Trunks know mecha Freeza was not at full power? His only source of information about Freeza was Gohan, and Gohan did not get to see Freeza go buff while powering up to 100% on Namek. So it seems that for Trunks to know Freeza was suppressed, he must have known that Freeza was buff at full po...
by kuartus4
Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 1965678

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

FatNagger69 wrote:
kuartus4 wrote:Goku is excited to fight Oob and suggests Oob could even beat him.
When is this said? I skimmed the last few chapters and couldn't find it.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”

Talking about Oob
by kuartus4
Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 1965678

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

At this point it's obvious that Toriyama doesn't remember half the little details from the original manga. I have a feeling a lot of things like the Bulma thing or the SSJ Gohan thing will keep happening as long as they keep making these new films. So far, the contradictions have been minimal. But ...
by kuartus4
Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong was Fat Buu upon hatching?
Replies: 29
Views: 2201

Re: How strong was Fat Buu upon hatching?

When Fat Buu finally hatches, he's not at his full strength. It takes him two powerups (to fight Dabura, and fight Vegeta) before he really becomes unstoppable. What do you think his power level before was? Stronger than Piccolo? Stronger than SSJ Goku? Stronger than SSJ2 Gohan but weaker than SSJ2...
by kuartus4
Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread
Replies: 2143
Views: 266276

Re: The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

Can someone translate these dialog boxes please? I would really appreciate it, Thanks.

ImageImageImage
by kuartus4
Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 1965678

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

I think it would be cool if the movie ended with a cliff hanger, which sets up to the third film in the "trilogy". I can dream. Like Battle of Gods :thumbup: Wikipedia: "A cliffhanger or cliffhanger ending is a plot device in fiction which features a main character in a precarious or difficult dile...
by kuartus4
Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 1965678

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

I think it would be cool if the movie ended with a cliff hanger, which sets up to the third film in the "trilogy". I can dream.
by kuartus4
Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:44 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11466
Views: 848719

Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Zombie wrote:What are your gaps between CG SSJ Goku, Cell (Not FP) and SSJ Gohan guys?
I go with something like this:


MSSJ Goku: 90

Perfect Cell(vs Goku): 100

MSSJ Gohan: 120

Perfect Cell(vs MSSJ Gohan): 135
by kuartus4
Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

And its not about whether Gohan cared more about keeping his identity secret than winning. Its about the fact that Gohan thought he could win the tournament in base with 18 and Piccolo competing. And he did care about winning. He even took a month off from school to train. Why would he do that if h...
by kuartus4
Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

But you realise there is nearly a 20 year gap between when he comments this and when he actually drew the manga. right? He drew that in 1991 and it was in the Super Exciting Guide in 2009 that he said that he thought x50 was excessive. But Akira Toriyama said when he drew it he had it in his head t...
by kuartus4
Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

I very much doubt the multiplier would be retconned so harshly. Because that would make Kaioken x10 and x20 viable again. Why would he do this? Also the fact that Saiyan's are still weaker than Freeza's 100% according to the BoG movie. So a 4x increase from the SSJ multiplier would put Cell and the...
by kuartus4
Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

Since base Goku never increases his strength beyond the Namek saga I think this was pretty much a given... This is highly unlikely I think. For one, it is my opinion that by the mecha Freeza saga AT had retconned the 50x ssj multiplier to something like 4x for the rest of the series. I guess he tho...
by kuartus4
Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

Yeah, at least according to dragon ball wikia. According to the wiki, the text says, "Allow me to show you....my further transformation!!!" The fact that it states "further" instead of "new" makes me think that its something that was already known, and not newly discovered. Just because it says "fu...
by kuartus4
Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

That being said, now we know Freeza has another transformation: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141121123639/dragonball/images/thumb/1/16/God_Frieza_possible_design.PNG/395px-God_Frieza_possible_design.PNG Is that what the text says? Yeah, at least according to dragon ball wikia. According to ...
by kuartus4
Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

I think the manga implications pretty much rule out the base saiyans being weaker than 100% final form Freeza. I think its made clear they became stronger. That being said, now we know Freeza has another transformation: I think Beerus was saying that base Goku was weaker than that Freeza. I think t...
by kuartus4
Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 1965678

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

I wonder if Abo and Kado will make an appearance, or at least be mentioned or alluded to.
by kuartus4
Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza?
Replies: 200
Views: 18071

Re: Beerus claims that base Goku in BoG couldn't beat Freeza

This is post-Buu arc of course, because it's Battle of Gods. Beerus tells base Goku that Goku wouldn't have been able to beat Freeza. Goku then transforms to his SSJ forms. Does this BoG scene confirm this? Beerus did refer to 100% final form Freeza right? I think the manga implications pretty much...
by kuartus4
Tue May 06, 2014 2:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...
Replies: 365
Views: 18535

Re: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...

About the number of Kaioushin: If Toriyama meant three of each Kaioushin, remember that the two alive right now are both East. It wouldn't really explain where the others are, but whatever, it's also possible they won't be replaced because they technically still exist inside of Boo (not counting th...
by kuartus4
Sat May 03, 2014 12:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...
Replies: 365
Views: 18535

Re: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...

-I really like the idea of Kaioshins working in shifts, and one taking over when another dies by "growing like a plant", and all that. It just...contradicts a lot. First of course it doesn't seem to fit Toriyama's prior Q&A origin for the Kaioshins. Worse, the idea of there being three Kaioshins is...
by kuartus4
Fri May 02, 2014 6:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...
Replies: 365
Views: 18535

Re: The Newest Batch of Toriyama Tidbits...

Fionordequester wrote:You know, as long as he's at it though, someone really should ask him...

"Was Gohan SSJ1 or SSJ2 in his fight against Dabura?" I'm surprised nobody has yet actually.
Yeah, I would love for him to settle that one for good.