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by kuartus4
Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Strength of Evil Majin Buu & Pure Majin Buu
Replies: 105
Views: 9628

Re: Strength of Evil Majin Buu & Pure Majin Buu

Base Gotenks was confident that he could beat Boo, which implies that this is the biggest power he ever had up until that point. I think Gotenk's confidence is just a gag. After all, to be truly confident, he would have to think that base Gotenks was stronger than SSJ2 Majin Vegeta since he saw Veg...
by kuartus4
Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

I don't think the hair really matters. It was simply changed before the beginning of the tournament. Gohan only transformed into a Super Saiyan when he saw Videl getting pummeled, anyway. Going beyond that was never even mentioned until a bit later. I don't think AT changed SSJ Gohan's hairstyle. G...
by kuartus4
Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Strength of Evil Majin Buu & Pure Majin Buu
Replies: 105
Views: 9628

Re: Strength of Evil Majin Buu & Pure Majin Buu

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: and since it's implied that base Gotenks is stronger than SS Goten/Trunks.......
How was this implied?
by kuartus4
Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

Majin Vegeta wasn't an issue as a Super Saiyan, so Goku wasn't expecting him to be that powerful as a Super Saiyan 2. And that makes sense, considering he had no idea Vegeta's power was pushed beyond its limits. I remember SSJ majin Vegeta doing some power up to expel? Babidi from his mind. Wouldn'...
by kuartus4
Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

I don't think Bobbidi's fate was on Goku's mind there.. Vegeta set out to kill buu, and presumably Babidi as well. So it stands to reason that Goku would be expecting to sense Vegeta had Vegeta managed to succeed. Goku's reaction after Vegeta's power-up alone tells us that Vegeta ended up being mor...
by kuartus4
Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

I just don't see the point of Goku mentioning Vegeta's Chi if he was never able to sense him at all. There's also Vegeta's power-up to Super Saiyan 2, which convinces Goku that the fight won't be so quick after all. I doubt he was going by looks alone . If Vegeta kills babidi, he breaks the spell a...
by kuartus4
Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

When Goku wakes up, he says he could feel Boo's Chi, but could no longer feel Vegeta and Gohan's Chi. Also, when Goku displays Super Saiyan 2 to Majin Boo, Trunks states that Goku is as strong as Vegeta. I'm sure they had no issues sensing Majin Vegeta. Well, in the Viz, Goku just says he can't fee...
by kuartus4
Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35137
Views: 1679869

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

So SSJ2 Gohan was raging the entire time vs Cell? Obviously. That was the entire plot point at that time, him letting his rage out. Not really that obvious. I thought of it as Gohan's rage letting him unlock the SSJ2 transformation. I didn't see him raging the entire time, just the moment right bef...
by kuartus4
Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

Goten and Trunks sense Goku and Vegeta when they fight as well. Did they sense Vegeta though, or just Goku? Trunks: “He-hey, what is this? It’s a super-duper astounding ki… Who is it ?...Is it papa and the others?” Trunks doesn't mention feeling a couple of astounding ki, and doesn't say, "who are ...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:49 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

Babidi's recruits couldn't be sensed, They had no problem sensing Majin Vegeta, and Vegeta knew that he could beat Pui-Pui in base. Spopovitch and Yamu seem to have been special. Chapter: 465 (DBZ 271), P2.3 Context: as Vegeta fights Boo Piccolo: “He’s already surpassed Super Saiyan as well…This is...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

I don't think it's much of a stretch for Kaioshin to come to the conclusion that Dabra is #1 in the demon realm, since he's, you know, the king of demons. Being king of the demon realm would be no guarantee that he is the strongest, yet Kaioshin seems completely sure he is. After all, Kaioshin was ...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35137
Views: 1679869

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

No, because he did. Without his rage, he's not as strong as he was against Cell. He doesn't have weaker base/SS forms, but his maximum is far lower. So Gohan's SSJ2 multiplier is variable? No. Just that his SSJ2 power plus a rage boost is stronger than his SSJ2 power alone. So SSJ2 Gohan was raging...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

Kaioshin is going off hype more so then power. Kaioshin: “Of course…He’s the king of the Dark Demon Realm, after all…One of you people is probably the #1 in this world , but in the other world, the world of demons, Dabra is absolutely on top " Kaioshin seems quite certain of it, while with Goku and...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

Kaioshin is going off hype more so then power. Kaioshin: “Of course…He’s the king of the Dark Demon Realm, after all…One of you people is probably the #1 in this world , but in the other world, the world of demons, Dabra is absolutely on top " Kaioshin seems quite certain of it, while with Goku and...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35137
Views: 1679869

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

RandomGuy96 wrote:No, because he did. Without his rage, he's not as strong as he was against Cell. He doesn't have weaker base/SS forms, but his maximum is far lower.
So Gohan's SSJ2 multiplier is variable?
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

What convinced me that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabra is the fact that upon seeing Dabra coming out of the space ship with Babidi, Kaioshin immediately begins to question their chances of winning, even after having sensed SSJ2 Gohan at the tournament. Which to me means that Dabra must have been stron...
by kuartus4
Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35137
Views: 1679869

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Normal SS Gohan stomps Goku flat. ...There is absolutely no way I will ever believe that. According to the Daiz, CG SS Gohan = Buu arc SS Gohan. CG SS Gohan completely and utterly outclassed his father, and could stomp him easily. Doesn't that directly contradict Vegeta noting Gohan had gotten weak...
by kuartus4
Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)
Replies: 372
Views: 24166

Re: When was Gohan a SS2 in Boo arc (again)

What convinced me that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabra is the fact that upon seeing Dabra coming out of the space ship with Babidi, Kaioshin immediately begins to question their chances of winning, even after having sensed SSJ2 Gohan at the tournament. Which to me means that Dabra must have been strong...
by kuartus4
Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Plothole Reconciliation Thread
Replies: 189
Views: 13768

Re: Plothole Reconciliation Thread

When Goku and Freeza fight for a while, Freeza mentions how he didn't know there was someone stronger than Captain Ginyu. Yet what about Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan, who all managed to surpass his second form power level of over 1 million, while Captain Ginyu was only at 120 K? And what about King Col...
by kuartus4
Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Plothole Reconciliation Thread
Replies: 189
Views: 13768

Re: Plothole Reconciliation Thread

When the gang asks Shenlong to revive everyone who died the day of the budokai, except the bad guys, Vegeta stays dead, signifying that Shenlong thinks Vegeta was a bad guy. Yet later when Dende asks Porunga to revive everyone killed after Babidi's arrival on earth, except the bad guys, Vegeta come ...