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by TheUltimateVegito
Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

There is no evidence, just your supposition. He just says "This is pointless". Raditz did say to Gohan's hearing that the Saiyans sell planets for money. I know what Raditz said, but that wasn't what the Saiyans did it primarily for. They are savages that enjoy fighting and killing. Money is low on...
by TheUltimateVegito
Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Going straight to killing people instead of treating it like a game constitutes taking it seriously. It's Gohan's point of view because these are factors that'll make him think it's pointless which he stated he did. Raditz practically said to Gohan and the rest that Saiyans are in it for the money,...
by TheUltimateVegito
Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

If Cell was serious about his "goal" to strike fear into people before he kills them then he wouldn't have try to go easy. Proving that he can, with his superior power, crush people's hopes of not dying while taking it easy and only afterwards, eventually, after they have really tasted the despair,...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

What constitutes taking it seriously? And how does that make him any less dangerous or in need of being killed? You say you are talking about Gohan's point of view but what you are actually talking about is your POV. That's not his point of view. Limit his POV to the text. And Vegeta was never real...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

The same Cell who was holding back against Goku. Could you give an example of how he hurts people, threatens them and toys with them to the point that his desire to strike fear and kill people is furthered when he's the same guy who was going easy on his opponents in the Cell Games? And before you ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

My bad, I changed it to "If Cell was serious about his "goal" to strike fear into people before he kills them then he wouldn't have try to go easy." He wanted to test the limits of his strength. He's not going easy on the Z Team. He physically hurts people, kills them, threatens them, and toys with...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

If Cell was serious about his "goal" to strike fear into people before he kills them then he wouldn't have included a no killing rule in the tournament. There wasn't one. You are confusing it with the Tenkaichi Budokai. He explicitly says that if someone dies, they lose. This statement throws much ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

How are Vegeta's reasons no better? He did it for money and eternal life, those are actual goals unlike Cell who did it for no real reason. Him not striking fear and killing Hercule showed he wasn't serious about his desire to kill and strike fear in people, which added to Gohan feeling the Cell Ga...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Vegeta's reasons for killing were no better and regardless, killing is still killing. In terms of sheer numbers, Cell killed more in the Cell arc than Vegeta did in the Saiyan arc. Both needed to be stopped. Cell wanted to achieve the ultimate power and strike fear in people's hearts before he kill...
by TheUltimateVegito
Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Yes, there are multiple interpretations, but not all are valid. It was pointless killing them from Gohan's point of view. Killing is killing. Why would it matter so much to Gohan whether he killed them because he wanted to have fun or because he wanted to assert his dominance like Vegeta? It was gr...
by TheUltimateVegito
Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:28 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

I don't think Gohan needs to directly say it's pointless because Cell achieved perfection, the fact that he said it's pointless alone can only mean that he felt it was pointless because Cell already achieved his goals and didn't take killing seriously. Him not saying it's because he achieved his pe...
by TheUltimateVegito
Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:46 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

He didn't care about asserting dominance, he only cared about testing his perfect form. He treated killing like something just to do for fun, not something he took seriously. The Cell Games was pointless from Gohan's point of view because Cell already achieved what he wanted, knowing that he doesn'...
by TheUltimateVegito
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:48 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Vegeta Best Entrance Ever [Fandub]
Replies: 0
Views: 2058

Vegeta Best Entrance Ever [Fandub]

I'd like to know your honest opinions on my Vegeta voice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IFYA0h ... e=youtu.be
by TheUltimateVegito
Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

His goal was achieved, but he wants to test it. He wants a challenge. It's the Saiyan DNA that desires a test and he made his intentions very clear to Trunks. He wants to murder people and see the terrified look on their faces as he does it. Mr. Satan was such small fry that it wasn't worth his tim...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Cell hosting the tournament instead of destroying earth straight away showed he didn't take destroying earth seriously, even if the stakes were greater than Frieza. Destroying earth wasn't a goal for Cell but rather something he's doing for amusement. That's why Gohan felt the fight was pointless, ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

That's just so wrong. Cell is a greater threat than Freeza because he has greater power. If he succeeded, he wouldn't have stopped with Earth. Cell didn't want to destroy Earth, but the stakes were just as high because his aim was to kill everyone. Same goal different tactic. Cell hosted the tourna...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:46 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Now you are just making stuff up in order to justify not conceding. You are retconning Gohan's beliefs. Why would Gohan believe fighting Cell was pointless but killing two pissant lackies was justified? Because those two lackeys were part of a greater cause. Remember that Gohan himself didn't know ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

His lack of desire to fight has nothing to do with this. He doesn't enjoy it like his father does, but he'll do it if he has to. That is introduced early and it's consistent. The other stuff isn't. His lack of love of fighting has much more to do with his upbringing. He was a pampered child and he ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

Now you are just making stuff up in order to justify not conceding. You are retconning Gohan's beliefs. Why would Gohan believe fighting Cell was pointless but killing two pissant lackies was justified? Because those two lackeys were part of a greater cause. Remember that Gohan himself didn't know ...
by TheUltimateVegito
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan at the Cell Games
Replies: 214
Views: 14338

Re: Gohan at the Cell Games

'what was the key to unleashing his powers' it's better storytelling for it to remain a mystery until the Cell Games than revealing it beforehand which would've dampened the big revelation of his belief that killing is a sin in the Cell Games. How is that better storytelling? I get that an author w...