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by Marlowe89
Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why are Freeza and Cooler's ascended forms so different?
Replies: 10
Views: 9434

Re: Why are Freeza and Cooler's ascended forms so different?

Entertaining the idea that RoF exists in the same continuity as Movie 5, I think there's a fairly simple reason for Cooler's "ascended" form not being anywhere near the same level as Freeza's - unlike Freeza, I'd wager that he wasn't a prodigy, or at least not a prodigy to the same degree. He wasn't...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:43 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: BoG/Rof & GT are not in the same universe.
Replies: 155
Views: 9742

Re: BoG/Rof & GT are not in the same universe.

Regardless of whatever Chozenshuu 4's stance on the matter is, I think that most people are perfectly capable of observing the countless enormous inconsistencies between BoG/RoF and GT. I'm not even really sure why this is debatable. People are certainly entitled to believe that they all fit in one ...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How does Golden Frieza fare off against fighters in GT
Replies: 171
Views: 16734

Re: How does Golden Freeza fare off against fighters in GT

According to guidebooks & video-games (well, one guidebook, Chozenshuu #4, & one video-game, XenoVerse), BoG/FnF and GT take place in the same continuity. So, Super Baby 1 is stronger than Golden Freeza, and even Whis. Pretty sure Xenoverse explicitly establishes DBGT as an alternate timeline entir...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:50 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

I bet this is pretty much exactly what happened when Freeza first got to Hell, in the brief period while standing in line before he got to Enma and was stuck in his "hang here and listen to the little angels and teddy bears run all around you" punishment cocoon. XD That would be some hilarious dial...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:46 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Because that pretty much makes him look as stupid as he looks if he knew he could become that strong. I can even imagine him reaching hell and talking to some other souls: "... and that's how I got here. Damn those saiyans!" "Well, I guess you could have trained a little before going to Earth... Yo...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

If you wanted to continue said discussion with your points, you'd make a new thread for it or PM if you were interested in further discussion. There's not point in retorting as I wouldn't be able to respond anyways. I agreed to put an end to it and that's what I'm doing for the thread. It was about...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

A contemplation he didn't reach after losing horribly in Namek, getting half his body destroyed and even while knowing that he might not be able to defeat Goku alone which is why he brings his father with him to Earth as he specifically mentions? Sure, why not? I'm just clarifying that the wording ...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Even said he would need his dad to help him beat Goku, and that maybe he could win by himself. Even though he knew he could train for 4 months and become almost Beerus' level. Freeza logic. I'm not so sure he did know that. When he mentioned that he could do this in RoF, wasn't it worded along the ...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:50 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

He got about as weaker as Krillin did, which was not at all. Even in the past he had a hard time tapping into his rage before the time skip. So nothing has changed. The difference is, his rage is no longer the only source of power he has difficulty tapping into. Going into the first Super Saiyan st...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Actually he didn't become weaker. He only couldn't tap into his hidden power with rage. Rustier yes, but weaker no. It's literally the same thing. If he can't tap into the same level of power as before, he's weaker by definition. Nobody said anything about his natural state. So yes Gohan and the bo...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

They play fought and never took things seriously. Even later they aren't interested in fighting either as shown by End of Z. Gohan and the boys have shown time and time again they can catch up and get stronger, or learn new forms in record time. I find the defense frankly laughable as people want c...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Goten and Trunks as Gotenks master SSJ3 in a week. Goku takes 7 years. The next generation have ALWAYS been better when it comes to training and adapting when they actually do it. I doubt it'd take him years to absorb God mode. With Beerus and Whis it'd take a short time, and then he'd wave goodbye...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:53 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

He doesn't have time to spend 5 minutes with a god power up like Goku....yeah ok. Considering he always learns things faster than Goku and has always had great potential, he can't just spend a measly 5 minutes barely training to reach god power. Something that wouldn't take away from family time. B...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

I think it's funny that people pretend like "training" has anything to do with it. The God Ritual has no training involved at all. They got everybody together to deify Vegeta. Why not deify Gohan too? I think it's funny that people pretend that the God Ritual automatically and permanently makes som...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

So Kame Sennin and Yamcha are throw aways cause they retired and don't normally take part in action....good to know. Neither of those characters are anything like Gohan, so no, they're not throw-aways since their choices aren't actually hampering or going against their personalities. One of them is...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

What's the point of a consequence if nothing is learned from it? Him retiring is not making him a throw away character. Did that make Kame Sennin a throw away character when he retired? It just means his time is up and he's done fighting. Let him stop fighting if he's retired. Let him be a non figh...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

I do agree with you that he isn't a fighter, nor interested. My issue is they can't let Gohan have either way. He can't retire and remove himself from battle because he's not interested, nor actually get stronger because he still keeps getting into fights anyways. We can't have a retired non fighte...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

The point I'm making is that he's not completely against fighting or hates it as much as people say. He doesn't like training like Goku or Vegeta, but he doesn't hate it either. He just likes other things more. He didn't have to fight Dabura at all. He could have let any other person fight for him....
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Which is why he later told Goku and Vegeta to fight Dabura for him instead of him taking a turn, and went into early retirement as a Super Hero....oh wait... What exactly are you implying here? I don't think that fighting Dabura or playing superhero is at all inconsistent with his dislike of fighti...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024244

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It's not that Gohan didn't want to fight; it's that he knew he had to be the one to KILL Cell, which was a responsibility he didn't want to bear or saw the need to since a) he had no connections with the creature and b) Cell could just stop being evil and call it a day. Except Gohan flat-out told C...