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by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It's not. Both BoG & FnF show us that base Goku is almost as strong as Super Saiyan God, and Beerus even says that the decrease in power is insignificant, and it's shown in FnF that SSGSS is stronger than base with God power. Which means that SSGSS is stronger than SSG. First of all, you're not rep...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection F"
Replies: 528
Views: 41504

Re: Official DBZ 2015 Movie Power Discussion: "Resurrection

Whis = 15 Beerus = 10 Golden Freeza = 7 SSGSS Goku = 6-7 (I don't believe that SSGSS is stronger than the actual SSG form, but Goku himself may have improved due to Whis' training) SSGSS Vegeta = 6-7 (see above) Declining Golden Freeza = 5 Base Goku = 4 Base Vegeta = 4 Fourth Form Freeza = 3 (after ...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is the "Saiyan Beyond God" Base Form?
Replies: 31
Views: 10179

Re: How strong is the "Saiyan Beyond God" Base Form?

Currently, there's no direct confirmation for what base Goku's exact strength level is. The implication of both BoG and RoF is that Goku needs Super Saiyan to draw out the rest of Super Saiyan God's power, but we also know that he can use a degree of that power in base due to his absorption of it in...
by Marlowe89
Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

I see many fans absolutely livid over what they did to Gohan in other sites and under the comment sections of the manga. I can only hope Japanese fans are the same way so maybe, just maybe the creators will get their shit straight with this character in the next movie. : ) I still don't understand ...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Movie 12
Replies: 60
Views: 5244

Re: Thoughts on Movie 12

It's personally my second-favorite DBZ film, right under Battle of Gods.

In contrast, movie 9 is probably one of my least favorite DBZ films in spite of the praise it usually gets from the fanbase.
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It's not. BoG, FnF, and Toriyama himself confirm that base Goku is as strong as God Goku. In FnF, Freeza says that Goku holds back, and then Goku shows SSGSS. Meaning that SSGSS is stronger than SSG. BoG never confirmed that, and my previous post to you just explained that if anything, it suggests ...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It increases base Goku's strength, who is around as strong as SSGod. This is pure speculation on your part. Goku has absorbed SSG's power, but the simple fact that he transformed into SS at all in BoG directly suggests that he can't simply tap into all of it in base. There has been no official expl...
by Marlowe89
Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

The form is described as an overwhelming power the world has never seen before so at the very least he's above 70% Beerus.So the new form is indeed stronger than SSJG You're showing me an incredibly vague statement from a magazine advertisement, and even if I took that statement at face value, Goku...
by Marlowe89
Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

The explanation for the form is that it's what happens when someone goes Super Saiyan having mastered God Ki. Which is exactly what I just said. People need to stop trying to make it needlessly complex. But Super Saiyan God SS is stronger than Super Saiyan God, while Super Saiyan with God power fro...
by Marlowe89
Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:11 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Who cares if the Vegeta vs. Freeza match was one-sided because Freeza was weakened? Do we have any way of measuring exactly how weakened Freeza was specifically? Why are we even questioning his strength at this point when he flat-out transformed into the same variation of Super Saiyan as Goku? This...
by Marlowe89
Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:22 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Who cares if the Vegeta vs. Freeza match was one-sided because Freeza was weakened? Do we have any way of measuring exactly how weakened Freeza was specifically? Why are we even questioning his strength at this point when he flat-out transformed into the same variation of Super Saiyan as Goku? This ...
by Marlowe89
Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:41 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

*Heavy sigh.* :( Come on, movie! I know I won't see you til late this year, but please for the love of all the time and energy I've invested have something that makes up for all this! Don't be sad Chu! theres still Goku and Vegeta interactions while training with Whis and Vegeta protecting Goku whe...
by Marlowe89
Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Assuming "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" is what sticks/remains official, I don't see the problem with using that specific description to refer to the "new" form. A little long winded, sure, but it's not atrocious. I'd prefer to use that terminology over a fan-created name any day of the week. "Blu...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"
Replies: 18529
Views: 1384617

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

I think a lot of the initial disappointment came from unrealistic expectations, but now that I'm over those I feel like I'm really starting to appreciate the film for what it is. Personally, it exceeded my expectations the moment I first saw it. The way it manages to take a lot of DBZ conventions o...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

To me, this isn't a new form, just one big "Super Saiyan God." I understand that the name is a mouthful, but it makes sense. This form is simply a Super Saiyan God who's become a Super Saiyan. So in the end it's not really "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan," it's more like "Super Saiyan Super Saiyan G...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It really would have been better if the previous red form had just been 'Saiyan God' or 'God Saiyan', allowing this form to be 'Super Saiyan God' or 'Super God Saiyan' or something. Lack of foresight on their part, but who could have known at the time that Battle of Gods would be the success it was...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: So, about the Broly hate...
Replies: 134
Views: 10337

Re: So, about the Broly hate...

People don't like he's far more popular than any other villain in the series, even Freeza. I've never been one to blindly hate a character simply for an unprecedented amount of popularity. I guess I've just never understood what made Broly's character so popular in the first place... well, aside fr...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: So, about the Broly hate...
Replies: 134
Views: 10337

Re: So, about the Broly hate...

He's the "Hulk smash!" of DBZ. Three movies and no personality to speak of. This. To me, he's just a dumb brute with zero personality. Even if he does have an explanation for his demeanor, I don't think it prevents him from being generally uninteresting. I wouldn't even mind him being shoehorned in...
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Cell Arc Goku. Out of character???
Replies: 21
Views: 1442

Re: Cell Arc Goku. Out of character???

EXBadguy wrote:Not to start the canon debate here, but BoG ain't canon. And honestly, things like that made me wish Toriyama didn't do BoG.
If you don't intend to start a debate then why make this argument?

And yes, it IS canon to the manga.
by Marlowe89
Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
Replies: 28817
Views: 2024298

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

It could be a transformation for an alternate Goku/Vegeta costume. That would make the most sense, considering that Blueper Saiyan itself is quite literally just the initial Super Saiyan form infused with deity stuff. Because that "depressing" story was probably the best thing Toei ever did on thei...