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by theherodjl
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?
Replies: 12
Views: 5275

Re: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?

But Goku said the fight would take all day and was sweating pretty heavily after canceling out that blast. Spending the day fighting Nappa would cost him a lot of energy regardless. Just seems to me like Nappa was on the same level. That's exactly why Goku was shown stressed on panel, he was suppre...
by theherodjl
Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6648

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Since you're bringing up the Moro arc, I assume this focuses on the manga version, in which Vegeta seems to currently be stronger than non-UI Goku, so... No. Despite getting stronger since his previous fight with Beerus (right before the ToP) and managing to power up his SSB during the ToP itself, ...
by theherodjl
Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6648

Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Since Vegeta has improved his strength between the ToP & Namek and is currently training to learn some special new techniques on Yardrat, do you suppose SSJBE Vegeta + whatever new abilities he gets from Yardrat would allow him to defeat Beerus in a simple fight(barring the use of energy of destruct...
by theherodjl
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?
Replies: 12
Views: 5275

Re: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?

I think we shouldn't discount the notion of Goku simply conserving his energy. He was facing off against two opponents that were the strongest he had ever seen at that point so its not out of the question that Goku would hold back his power output to ensure he could keep fighting. Its only logical w...
by theherodjl
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?
Replies: 9
Views: 3867

Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?

Even after another year in the ROSAT, Vegeta only managed to reach somewhere over half of FPSSJ Goku's strength despite knowing Goku's method of training and having several months to think & improve upon it. Why exactly is that? Did Goku unintentionally cut morale so much after his declaration that ...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Old Broly's Madness
Replies: 13
Views: 2764

Re: Old Broly's Madness

People can go insane for various reasons and since Saiyans have not demonstrated any significantly improved degree of physiological fortitude over humans, I'd say there's a good chance that any one of the reasons that can alter a human's mind could very well have done so for Broly.
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?
Replies: 6
Views: 2823

Re: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?

Hugo Boss wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:30 am
Remember that he also had Freeza and Goku’s cells, so he doesn’t have that weakness.
If he has Freeza's cells then that means he can hold his full power for only 7-8 minutes. :D
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?
Replies: 6
Views: 2823

Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?

Cell demonstrates a few times that he is subject to Namekian regeneration's loss of Ki upon needing to re-acquire lost sections of his body so does that mean that SPC was not quite at full power when he engaged Gohan in the beam struggle? He did have to regenerate his entire body from his smallest p...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.
Replies: 4
Views: 2627

Re: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.

Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Actually I don't think Vegeta has a specific reason for not seeking to revive any of them. I think its more something that he never considered. He abandoned the ideology of his youth because he came to care for others. He hasn't lost his Saiyan ideology, he is just ...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.
Replies: 4
Views: 2627

Re: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.

I think Vegeta III would be rather proud to have a grandson who is a Super Saiyan. Especially given how proud he was of Vegeta when Vegeta was young. Yeah, I mean...sure? King Vegeta had great pride in his lineage and would be content to see both his son & grandson as SSJs if he had lived. However,...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is 'Ultimate' Still Representative Of Gohan's Final Form/State Or Can He Ascend Further?
Replies: 4
Views: 4016

Is 'Ultimate' Still Representative Of Gohan's Final Form/State Or Can He Ascend Further?

Will he always just be "Ultimate Gohan + whatever extra degree of power he happens to obtain?" or will 'Ultimate' become a thing of the past and then we'll have God Gohan or something like that?
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.
Replies: 32
Views: 3583

Re: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.

Doesn't Zeno appoint Hakaishin? I imagine if Zeno was truly dissatisfied with Beerus, he'd retire him without a second thought. However, since that hasn't happened even after 70+ million years then Zeno must either approve of Beerus or simply doesn't feel Beerus needs replacement.
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?
Replies: 9
Views: 3292

Re: What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?

Miracles wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:48 pm
Emotion. Both anime/manga showed the power up came from feelings of rage and frustration.
So that means Vegeta's rage offers him roughly 20 times greater power than normal? Would that mean Vegeta was 20 times stronger after Bulma got slapped by Beerus?
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?
Replies: 9
Views: 3292

Re: What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?

Most likely, it's just Super Saiyan Blue Grade-2: instead of using a technique to increase his ki output, he "tweaked" the transformation Where exactly is Vegeta drawing out this additional power though? Goku has the excuse of the Genki Dama charging him up to achieve UI but what justifies Vegeta m...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:37 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?
Replies: 9
Views: 3292

What Is The Basis For SSJBE's Power?

We know that SSJBE is Vegeta improving in his own way instead of following Goku's path with UI but where does the power & reason for the form come from exactly? Is Vegeta drawing on the power of Oozaru to push SSJB to a greater level? Is he relying on more rage? Does he simply have further latent po...
by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?
Replies: 20
Views: 4266

Re: Could the Z fighters become as strong as they are now without meeting Beerus and Whis?

I'm going to say that Shadow Dragon saga power levels are the limit of mortal saiyan power. Ultra Full power Saiyan 4 is the max. Future Trunks got as strong as he did because of Beerus and the others and was leveled up to match this. Just because characters are mortal does not mean that they are f...
by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?
Replies: 12
Views: 2906

Re: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?

I think the “somehow” is more related to the absorption ability than to South Kaioshin’s strength, since that was the first time they realized Boo can absorb another beings. Kibitoshin was talking in hindsight, knowing full well in present tense that Boo could absorb opponents and that the exact ci...
by theherodjl
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?
Replies: 12
Views: 2906

Re: How strong do you think South kaioshin was?

IIRC, Kibitoshin said that "Majin Boo somehow managed to absorb the South Kaioshin" or something to that effect. The implication being that the South Kaioshin was powerful enough to keep Pure Boo at bay and that absorbing him would have taken some cunning on Boo's part and/or the South Kaioshin happ...
by theherodjl
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 6597

Re: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

What would be funnier? A fly marrying a bumblebee? No, I mean, would Whis winning or losing be funnier? Whis losing of course. I could actually see Whis losing via a classic DB gag scene, he unwittingly stepped in animal poop despite having mastered Ultra Instinct so there does seem to be at least ...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?
Replies: 40
Views: 6597

Re: Could The Entire Z-Senshi(Freeza & Broly too) Take On An Angel?

Say Whis was under orders from Daishinkan to test the full might of his universe's best fighters by threatening to destroy it, could all of the strongest, smartest, and most experienced fighters of Earth as well as Broly & Freeza be able to stop Whis? What would be funnier? A fly marrying a bumbleb...