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by theherodjl
Thu May 28, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong would Future Goku have been?
Replies: 5
Views: 228

Re: How strong would Future Goku have been?

Knowing Trunks' bleak future, the reason why Goku probably wasn't summoned by Enma to do anything about Black is because he was too weak to do anything. I imagine that Future Goku's afterlife training might allow him to handle Android-tier opponents but given that higher SSJ forms weren't discovered...
by theherodjl
Thu May 28, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?
Replies: 42
Views: 975

Re: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?

But that Trunks was way stronger than a SS3. Exactly. In both continuities, Future Trunks stated he was going to unleash his full power after a brief spar but only in the anime did Goku halt Trunks' assault with SSJ3. If we presume that Trunks was the same strength in either instance then Goku clea...
by theherodjl
Thu May 28, 2020 5:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?
Replies: 42
Views: 975

Re: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?

Saiyan Beyond God is not at all a distinct transformation, it's simply a new level of power their base forms eached. At no point in Super is "Beyond God" ever treated like a separate thing from their bases, that's just another variation of the discredited "2 base" theory. Since the events of ROF we...
by theherodjl
Wed May 27, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 40
Views: 1234

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

I follow a theory because M8 Broli is as strong as CG FP SSjin Goku so they kept the name is non canon LSSjin is based on in terms of strength If we take the opinion of Takao Koyama, the writer of the Broly films, into account then Broly in M8 & M10 was supposedly the strongest character in the DBZ...
by theherodjl
Tue May 26, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 40
Views: 1234

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

Because he's a Super Saiyan and his power is at it's maximum because his power is maximum.
by theherodjl
Tue May 26, 2020 6:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?
Replies: 42
Views: 975

Re: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?

Hugo Boss wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 6:21 pm
Maybe they are not quite as strong as they were in DBGT?
Are you saying that they're not on par in comparing base forms or not on par against their SSJ4 counterparts?
by theherodjl
Tue May 26, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?
Replies: 42
Views: 975

Would Current Base Goku & Vegeta Make It Far In GT?

This is Base Goku after training with Merus and Base Vegeta after mastering his spirit control technique: to what extent could they make it in GT before they become overwhelmed by it's fighters? Maybe Baby Vegeta-tier? Super 17? Possibly on par with some Shadow Dragons?
by theherodjl
Mon May 25, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?
Replies: 12
Views: 510

Re: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?

Based NOT just on that. Again, you’re wrong. The Elder Yardrat, Pybara, very clearly stated to Vegeta that Vegeta has grown stronger by “leaps and bounds”. And that before coming to Yardrat here, his body and spirit were so off balance, he couldn’t even project his own power very well at all! And t...
by theherodjl
Mon May 25, 2020 6:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?
Replies: 12
Views: 510

Re: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?

“Hell No” is your answer. Yet you provide no reason or explanation why. Very poor on your part. At least show me evidence that is backed up by the actual story, or this is just a disagreement for the simple reason that you think it’s too far fetched. Vegeta may not have come to Yardrat to greatly i...
by theherodjl
Mon May 25, 2020 5:03 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?
Replies: 12
Views: 510

Re: Current Base Vegeta stronger than his previous SSBE self from earlier this Arc?

Hell no. Vegeta did not train on Yardrat to improve his strength but to quickly learn some new techniques. The Yardrats don't have potential-unlocking abilities like Saichoro or Rou Kaioshin, they just have unusual abilities that mostly help them avoid fights. I much prefer Vegeta learning quirky te...
by theherodjl
Sun May 24, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66
Replies: 84
Views: 1536

Re: Future Trunks, Fused Zamasu and episode 66

The whole debacle of "Zamasu merging with the multiverse" and then Zeno arriving to conveniently eradicate said-multiverse is one of the worst asspulls I've ever seen. I much preferred the manga having Zamasu mutate into a clone army of himself(like Agent Smith) because it was a less grand ability t...
by theherodjl
Sat May 23, 2020 7:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSG Gohan?
Replies: 40
Views: 772

Re: SSG Gohan?

It would probably be better for Gohan to unlock God Ki in his Ultimate state rather than revert back to progressing SSJ forms, something he has stated that he doesn't want to trudge back up. If anyone needs to learn SSJG, its Gotenks as he is a very prodigious fusion that could make a comeback at re...
by theherodjl
Sat May 23, 2020 7:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?
Replies: 10
Views: 287

Re: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?

The only relevant factor you pointed out here was speed. Not what object is moving towards what. Which has been the point I've been making. A planet, an object usually set on an orbit around a star, has spontaneously developed enough motion to fly off it's axis and is bolting towards a person sitti...
by theherodjl
Sat May 23, 2020 3:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?
Replies: 10
Views: 287

Re: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?

Those are examples of falling under the gravity of the planet. The question here seems to be what would happen if a planet suddenly got hurled at someone and how strong would they need to be to withstand it. That's essentially the same thing. That's the point he was making. If a planet is pushed of...
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 9:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?
Replies: 10
Views: 287

Re: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?

Well Goku was jumping multiple kilometers into the air when fighting Nam and others before he learned to fly, and landing without any apparent damage. Basically this seems to be asking who can survive falling from space at reentry speeds, and as long as you assume that the whole breathing in space ...
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Calling it! Vegeta is going to get Moro’s energy stealing technique + Immunity to it aswell!
Replies: 23
Views: 887

Re: Calling it! Vegeta is going to get Moro’s energy stealing technique + Immunity to it aswell!

I hope its more like energy manipulation along the lines of Green Lantern & Wonderman.
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If Future Trunks Somehow Revived His Z Senshi Instead Of Going Back In Time?
Replies: 18
Views: 582

Re: If Future Trunks Somehow Revived His Z Senshi Instead Of Going Back In Time?

Goku wouldn't be able to come back even with the namek dragonballs. Vegeta was in hell without a body so he'd be unable to train. The only shot they would have is Piccolo fusing. That even isn't likely to work. It depends on if Goku's death was "natural" since it was an acquired condition rather th...
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it possible that Future Goku didn't keep his body ?
Replies: 8
Views: 358

Re: Is it possible that Future Goku didn't keep his body ?

Toriyama, Toei, and Toyotaro have seemingly beaten around the bush as to why Goku never attempted to aid his family & friends from the afterlife...but its probably just a case of Occam's razor: Goku simply took his focus off of the Earth's fate to journey off into the afterlife to train. It is disap...
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?
Replies: 10
Views: 287

Re: How Strong Would Someone Have To Be To Survive Being Hit By A Planet?

I presume that we talking about a planet spontaneously becoming a meteor and then chucking itself at someone? If it flew at someone who was just minding their own business in outer space and depending on how fast it was going, it would feel like falling toward the ground from outer space to that per...
by theherodjl
Thu May 21, 2020 3:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Dende heals Goku's heart virus ?
Replies: 2
Views: 170

Re: Can Dende heals Goku's heart virus ?

Dende's healing, like with senzus, doesn't work on diseases or repair a compromised immune system. It merely undoes physical injuries and restores stamina. Boo's magic on the otherhand, could cure Goku of the heart virus and any other condition so as long as he is still alive. Then we got Whis who c...